# Who could beat Goku? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472 "2017-05-12T19:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CastletonSnob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@CastletonSnob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CastletonSnob)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/1 "2017-05-12T19:11:50Z")
Who are some characters in fiction who could beat Goku? I’m specifically looking for comic book/manga characters. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/2 "2017-05-12T19:12:54Z")
Squirrel Girl. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/3 "2017-05-12T19:15:31Z")
[Superman, obviously](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA). ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/4 "2017-05-12T20:01:58Z")
Doctor Strange ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/5 "2017-05-12T20:08:30Z")
Professor X. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/6 "2017-05-12T22:34:13Z")
Deadman ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/7 "2017-05-12T22:45:29Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > [Superman, obviously](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA). I’ve encountered people argue that this is pre-God-mode (Super Saiyan God and subsequent transformations) and should be recalculated. Also, there are just so many ways that Goku could come back. Though, with the current state, Superman is pre-52, so I don’t know if it still works. A part of that argument was that the new 52 version of Superman was weaker. Still, they did use a fully unlocked Superman, and that does make him unbeatable. But most Superman stories don’t deal with him then. Point is, a rematch now would be a closer fight, even if Supes still winds up winning. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/8 "2017-05-13T01:02:10Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’ve encountered people argue that this is pre-God-mode (Super Saiyan God and subsequent transformations) and should be recalculated. Also, there are just so many ways that Goku could come back. > > Though, with the current state, Superman is pre-52, so I don’t know if it still works. A part of that argument was that the new 52 version of Superman was weaker. Still, they did use a fully unlocked Superman, and that does make him unbeatable. But most Superman stories don’t deal with him then. > > Point is, a rematch now would be a closer fight, even if Supes still winds up winning. They did a sequel. [spoiler] Superman still wins. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![D.E.S.K.Top668](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@D.E.S.K.Top668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D.E.S.K.Top668)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/9 "2017-05-13T01:45:27Z")
**Saitama** , from [**One punch Man**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Punch_Man). He can defeat anybody with one punch. He purposely holds back to experience some kind of challenge. **Meliodas (Wrath)**\*, from [**The Seven Deadly Sins**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Deadly_Sins_(manga))… When using his powers, he has permanently scarred an immortal that has regenerative powers. **Dark Phoenix**. from [\*\* from The X-Men\*\*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Phoenix_Saga%5B/url). Made a star go super-nova to absorb the energy for lunch. I also second Squirrel Girl. \*In the Wiki Article, they call him Rage. I’m 99.9% sure he’s called Wrath in the Anime. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/10 "2017-05-13T14:48:42Z")
Doesn’t Goku die several times in his own cartoon? ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-beat-goku/786472/11 "2017-05-13T23:57:13Z")
Doctor Manhattan.