# Who could defeat Batman if he WEREN'T prepared?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 16, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747 "2006-07-16T15:49:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/61 "2006-07-18T05:00:50Z")

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> **Malacandra** wrote:  
> Who of course should be able to defeat Batman on their own terms any time they liked.

It helps that they are very similar to Batman. For example, their main weapon is fear. Fear and surprise. Their two main weapons are fear and surprise. And their nice uniforms. Amongs their weaponry are such diverse elements…

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> **Chronos** wrote:  
> I wasn’t expecting that.

Nobody does.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/62 "2006-07-18T05:26:53Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Ergo, an unprepared Batman could be defeated by:
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> Joker  
> Riddler  
> Penguin  
> Catwoman  
> Mr. Freeze  
> Archer  
> Clock King  
> King Tut  
> Egghead  
> Siren  
> Chantelle  
> Bookworm  
> Lord Ffogg  
> Louie the Lilac
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> and a bunch of others.

Such as Colonel Gumm and Marsha, Queen of Diamonds.

And yes, I’m ashamed to say that I remembered those characters.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/63 "2006-07-18T11:01:38Z")

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> [@Pixiesnix](#):
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> It helps that they are very similar to Batman. For example, their main weapon is fear. Fear and surprise. Their two main weapons are fear and surprise. And their nice uniforms. Amongs their weaponry are such diverse elements…
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> Nobody {expects them}.

Exactly. So Batman is never prepared for them.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/64 "2006-07-18T12:26:59Z")

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Geez, people, let’s get a clue–Colonel Mustard in the library with a lead pipe.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/65 "2006-07-19T01:41:17Z")

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Jesse Custer!

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**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2006, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/66 "2006-07-19T04:20:02Z")

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> **Malacandra** wrote:  
> Exactly. So Batman is never prepared for them.

I just now got that. :smack: The heat is affecting my brain. Yeah, that’s it…

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/67 "2006-07-20T12:21:35Z")

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Jesus Christ.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/68 "2006-07-20T13:01:20Z")

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If Batman is unprepared, Hannibal Lector can defeat him. But if he defeats him, Batman will be prepared with fava beans and a nice Chianti. So Batman can always defeat Hannibal Lector.

[shamelessly stolen from someone.]

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**Author:** ![First\_Amongst\_Daves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4491bb/32.png) [@First\_Amongst\_Daves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/First_Amongst_Daves)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/69 "2006-07-20T14:03:36Z")

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Hans Gruber. In Nakatomi Plaza. With a candlestick.

And kind of a stab in the dark, but how about the Justice…

No, you’re right. They couldn’t do it.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/70 "2006-07-20T16:25:41Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> If Batman is unprepared, Hannibal Lector can defeat him. But if he defeats him, Batman will be prepared with fava beans and a nice Chianti. So Batman can always defeat Hannibal Lector.
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> [shamelessly stolen from someone.]

From **Chronos** , [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6736430&postcount=3).

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**Author:** ![Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine_and_Smiles)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/71 "2006-07-20T22:00:02Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Jesus Christ.

He ain’t got the _heart_.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-could-defeat-batman-if-he-werent-prepared/364747/72 "2006-07-20T22:03:31Z")

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Another Batman…who _was_ prepared.

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