# Who DID say "forgiving them is God's function. Our job is simply to arrange the meeting."

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**Created:** [November 19, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-did-say-forgiving-them-is-gods-function-our-job-is-simply-to-arrange-the-meeting/737958 "2015-11-19T04:45:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-did-say-forgiving-them-is-gods-function-our-job-is-simply-to-arrange-the-meeting/737958/1 "2015-11-19T04:45:01Z")

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This quote is doing the rounds again. This time attributed to Vladimir Putin. First time I heard it was attributed to Norman Schwartzkopf.

Snopes has some background, but doesn’t really did into its origin: [Is Norman Schwarzkopf's 'Arrange the Meeting' Quote Real? | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/military/norman.asp)

To me it seems like it could have older origins. Any Dopers have better information?

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**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-did-say-forgiving-them-is-gods-function-our-job-is-simply-to-arrange-the-meeting/737958/2 "2015-11-19T05:19:20Z")

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Probably based on the story of the massacre of the Cathars in southern France in the Albegnesian crusade.

The Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, leader of the pope’s forces, was asked how they would know who were the heretics during the sack of Béziers in 1209. Allegedly he said “Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius - Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”

(Also paraphrased as “Kill them all, God will know His own”, “Kill them all, God will sort his own”, or “Kill them all,/and let God sort them out” )

No doubt other soldiers have been rephrasing it to be clever since that time.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-did-say-forgiving-them-is-gods-function-our-job-is-simply-to-arrange-the-meeting/737958/3 "2015-11-19T21:53:39Z")

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Somehow this reminds me of George C. Scott’s monolog at the opening of \*Patton. \*