# Who do the "Skull and Bones" really want to be elected president? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 10, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436 "2004-07-10T14:58:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![saluki\_fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@saluki\_fan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saluki_fan)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/1 "2004-07-10T14:58:23Z")
Given what we know about the “Skull and Bones” who are they are more likely to be pulling for in the upcoming election? I thought they did they favors for one another and it would appear that having a father who was in S&B, as well as president, would have a majority of the power ovre what they do, but then again somebody is fighting also hard to put John Kerry, another S&B member, in the oval office. So ultimately if the Skull and Bones have all this alleged tremendous power throughout the world, wouldn’t this proove that they are only in it for themselves and not in it for the interest of the group as a whole? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/2 "2004-07-10T15:01:26Z")
The Rockefellers have already decided who is to be president, so quit your speculating! 😉 My Birch/Libertarian friends are promoting the Lib guy (forget his name) but the slogan is No Bones ABout It. Funny. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/3 "2004-07-10T15:09:33Z")
Well given their expansive powers, dark dealings and the obvious ass kissing involved I’d say Jacques de Molay. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/4 "2004-07-10T20:50:01Z")
It’s an intramural faction fight within S&B. The presidency will go to whichever candidate throws the best keggers. Kerry has a clear disadvantage here. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/5 "2004-07-10T21:18:59Z")
Have you ever seen the episode of The Simpsons where the aliens Kang & Kudos pretended to be Bill Clinton and Bob Dole? They pretended to oppose one another, but they were really on the same team. Running a S&B member to be the candidate for both major parties is just like that. It is insurance that no matter what happens, a S&B member will win the Presidency. ---
**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/6 "2004-07-10T22:27:13Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > Running a S&B member to be the candidate for both major parties is just like that. It is insurance that no matter what happens, a S&B member will win the Presidency. Well, then! I believe I’ll vote for a third party! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/7 "2004-07-10T22:31:30Z")
> [@GLWasteful](#): > > Well, then! I believe I’ll vote for a third party! Go ahead - throw your vote away. ---
**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/8 "2004-07-11T01:55:10Z")
You forgot the maniacal laughter. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/9 "2004-07-11T03:50:17Z")
The “Skull and Bones” are but a wisp in a gale before the might of the Illuminati. ---
**Author:** ![PaulFitzroy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@PaulFitzroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulFitzroy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/10 "2004-07-11T06:21:21Z")
The CIA! The Vatican! The Zionists! The Freemasons! Evil Aliens! AAARGGHH!!! ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/11 "2004-07-11T18:09:37Z")
I hate to say this as a two-time former Bircher (I didn’t learn the first time) & a Conspiracy buff for lo the past twenty years… yeah, I think the CFR, TLC, Bildeberg Group & S&B skew “establishment liberal” but I no longer think they are the “Kingmakers” or as dedicated to one side as I once thought & perhaps they once were. (Quigley’s TRAGEDY & HOPE does indicate to me that they one did seem to have a more prominent ‘corporate socialist’ & New World Order agenda, but I’m not convinced it’s as much a driving passion as it seems to have once been.) ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/12 "2004-07-12T01:17:58Z")
So you’re you’re saying there’s no kegger? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/13 "2004-07-12T14:29:14Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > So you’re you’re saying there’s no kegger? :dubious: There may or may not be a Grand Conspiracy, but there’s always a kegger! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@jebert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jebert)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/14 "2004-07-12T17:29:54Z")
OK, I’ll bite. Who or what are CFR and TLC? The closest things I could find were Council on Foreign Relations and The Learning Channel. Neither of these seems to be in the same category as Skull & Bones. . ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/15 "2004-07-12T18:21:38Z")
> [@jebert](#): > > OK, I’ll bite. Who or what are CFR and TLC? Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. ---
**Author:** ![bughunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@bughunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bughunter)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/16 "2004-07-12T22:29:27Z")
Well don’t blame _me_, _I’m_ voting for Kodos. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/17 "2004-07-13T02:31:48Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > I hate to say this as a two-time former Bircher (I didn’t learn the first time) & a Conspiracy buff for lo the past twenty years… > > yeah, I think the CFR, TLC, Bildeberg Group & S&B skew “establishment liberal” but I no longer think they are the “Kingmakers” or as dedicated to one side as I once thought & perhaps they once were. (Quigley’s TRAGEDY & HOPE does indicate to me that they one did seem to have a more prominent ‘corporate socialist’ & New World Order agenda, but I’m not convinced it’s as much a driving passion as it seems to have once been.) “Corporate socialist”? ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/18 "2004-07-13T14:23:09Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > “Corporate socialist”? Yeah, a system in which big corporations & big government work together in promoting monopoly capitalism & imposing regulations which keep smaller competitors from becoming a threat to the big corps… this exists to some extent in everything from socialist democracies to capitalist democracies to fascist dictatorshps. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/19 "2004-07-13T14:25:59Z")
> [@jebert](#): > > OK, I’ll bite. Who or what are CFR and TLC? > > The closest things I could find were Council on Foreign Relations and The Learning Channel. Neither of these seems to be in the same category as Skull & Bones. > . You’re right RE CFR while TLC, as noted by Capt. A., is the Trilateral Commission. They are different from S&B as they are more political discussion/research organization whil S&B is more a secret society with funky rituals, but they are all Establishment organizations. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436/20 "2004-07-13T16:03:34Z")
> [@bughunter](#): > > Well don’t blame _me_, _I’m_ voting for Kodos. :rolleyes: The… _Executioner!?!_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-the-skull-and-bones-really-want-to-be-elected-president/254436.md?page=2)