# Who Do You Hate Less- Notre Dame or Alabama?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 3, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862 "2012-12-03T16:29:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/41 "2012-12-04T20:37:51Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> As a Texas A&M alumnus, I want Alabama to win. Then, since we beat Alabama this year, we can count it as another National Championship for the Aggies. :smack:

I know the feeling. When USC won 34 straight (2003-2005), Cal fans got a lot of vicarious glory (and untold media mentions) as The Last Team to Beat USC.

Yes, there was a time when the SEC did not dominate college football. Hard to believe, but true.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/42 "2012-12-04T20:56:27Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> When USC won 34 straight (2003-2005), …

According to the NCAA, USC didn’t win 34 straight. 14 of those wins were vacated. Thank Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/43 "2012-12-04T20:59:55Z")

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For most of my early life, I hated Notre Dame. They’ve been down so long, I actually started feeling sorry for them in recent years. Now I despise Alabama.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/44 "2012-12-04T21:26:08Z")

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> [@Raskolnikov](#):
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> “In fact, the’ve had USC on the road every other year since”
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> I’m calling BS: Note: USC at ND **again** in 2011!!!

The whole post was comedy, but this stood out to me. Do you know what “every other” means? As in alternating?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/45 "2012-12-04T21:26:09Z")

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There’s no option for “my team isn’t in the SEC so screw Alabama!”

Anyway, as a third-generation Gator alumnus I say screw Alabama. I was rooting for Georgia in the SEC championship game, though I might retroactively un-root for them since **Slow Moving Vehicle** is being such a jerk.

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**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/46 "2012-12-04T22:29:05Z")

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I’m for Alabama. I don’t care much for the SEC, but they play good football every year. There’s going to be a power from the SEC for every year in the foreseeable future. If it’s Alabama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, whatever, it makes little difference to me. Well, I like seeing Florida down since they recruit for the same guys as Miami. Plus, I like that for most of the past 20 years, ND has been an afterthought, and I’d rather it stay that way. _If_ ND wins, I like the idea of Jerry Jones throwing $10m/year or so at Brian Kelly just to see what happens.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/47 "2012-12-04T22:39:37Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> There’s no option for “my team isn’t in the SEC so screw Alabama!”
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> Anyway, as a third-generation Gator alumnus I say screw Alabama. I was rooting for Georgia in the SEC championship game, though I might retroactively un-root for them since **Slow Moving Vehicle** is being such a jerk.

He’s not really. He’s just showing his age which I would put as under 35. That’s the Dawg generation that hates Florida as our biggest rival. It’s natural for that generation to take any opportunity to razz a Florida fan.

Older’n that you really hate Auburn. Older’n that you really hate Georgia Tech. It’s purely generational.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/48 "2012-12-04T22:50:39Z")

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The only thing I hate in this matchup is Nick Saban. With a white hot fury.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/49 "2012-12-05T00:11:51Z")

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As I open this page the top three options each have 23 votes.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/50 "2012-12-05T04:19:56Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I went to a Catholic school on the Southwest Side of Chicago where there were very many Irish Notre Dame fans, all of them insufferable. Therefore, I will always hate the Irish more than any other team on God’s green earth. (Although I still would like to see them in the Big 10.)

Other than the “side” of Chicago you’re from, this describes my husband’s experience and his opinion about ND exactly.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/51 "2012-12-05T15:10:12Z")

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I hate the fact that we have to wait an entire month for the bowl games. It’s stupid for there to be such a long break between the end of the regular season and the bowl games.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/52 "2012-12-05T15:51:26Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I hate the fact that we have to wait an entire month for the bowl games. It’s stupid for there to be such a long break between the end of the regular season and the bowl games.

Well, we can’t have a playoff because it would interfere with the class schedule. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/53 "2012-12-16T20:02:27Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> According to the NCAA, USC didn’t win 34 straight. 14 of those wins were vacated. Thank Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll.

Those games were won on the field! _I_ still count them!

As for me, I hate Alabama less.

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/54 "2012-12-19T18:21:00Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> The coverup was worse than the acknowledged crime. Tressell bullshit excuses for covering up the sale of memorabilia and the players tie to a drug dealer surely enhanced the punishment OSU got. And the laughable OSU Compliance Department didn’t help either. And then there is the whole Bobby DiGeronimo thing. Trying to pretend that it was just a couple of free tattoos that got OSU in trouble is a gross misstatement.

Obviously - I’m not saying that they shouldn’t have gotten the punishment they got. Tressel was an idiot with regards to the whole thing and they got what they deserved…but I was responding to the spin that OSU was a bunch of ‘cheating sleazebags’, as if their transgression was directly responsible for bringing higher talent into the program.

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**Author:** ![eddyg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9e5f3/32.png) [@eddyg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eddyg)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2012, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/55 "2012-12-25T06:44:39Z")

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As a northern Indiana resident, I guess I’m obligated to say “GO IRISH!” In all honesty though, I’ve never really been interested in or paid much attention to college football( or any football, for that matter).

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