# Who do you think will succeed Obama? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 24, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677 "2013-11-24T16:43:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/61 "2013-11-26T20:36:53Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Ted Cruz vs Clinton- Ted Cruz wins. In Bizzarro world, possibly. Not in any remotely reality based world. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/62 "2013-11-26T21:35:45Z")
Anyone who thinks a Tea Party darling like Ted Cruz has absolutely any shot with mainstream America is very detached from reality. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/63 "2013-11-26T23:58:28Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Ted Cruz vs Clinton- Ted Cruz wins. If it’s George Clinton, maybe. But only in the Iowa caucus. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/64 "2013-11-27T01:54:31Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > The Dow just closed above 16,000 and the NASDAQ is flirting with 4,000. For comparison, the day a Democratic President took over from the GOP, the Dow was at 8,281 (it then promptly slid 332 on his inauguration day - go figure) and the NASDAQ was at 1,440. I would say Wall Street is pretty happy with the last 5 years. And the wealthy have regained most of the wealth they lost, and something like 95% of all the economic gains have gone to corporate profits and the wealthy. The last 15 years or so have seen almost all the economic gains go to the wealthy. It doesn’t change that for the majority of people high unemployment/underemployment and economic stagnation has been (and will be for the forseeable future) the status quo. So that could make people want a change of leadership. It won’t get better with a GOP president though (if anything it’ll get worse). ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/65 "2013-11-27T01:58:54Z")
I’m not buying Christie as the next President. The Tea Party has already shown “scorched earth” is a preferred strategy of theirs. Even if Christie made it through the primary he’s still in a terrible spot. He either shoulders the burden of having the Tea Party on his back, or is forced to rebuke them so often I can’t see him maintaining their support. And even if he does, how would he plan to govern as a centrist candidate with congress being so polarized? Republicans in congress aren’t going to magically move to the center, if anything they’ll move even FURTHER right as now they see an opening to get legislation passed the executive, and I’m not sure Democrats aren’t going to be so eager to hold hands after the utter obstructionism we’ve seen the previous 8 years. What’s the end game here? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/66 "2013-11-27T02:02:05Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > The last 15 years or so have seen almost all the economic gains go to the wealthy. > > It doesn’t change that for the majority of people high unemployment/underemployment and economic stagnation has been (and will be for the forseeable future) the status quo. So that could make people want a change of leadership. We were incredibly stagnant under GWB. I think the early bubbles (tech, housing) only masked that somewhat. We do need a fundamental change in how a number of things are done, but unfortunately, neither party is interested in taking up those reforms. Too much of it is “Liberal” or involves spending lots of money for the Right, too much of it is unpopular with entrenched interests for the Left. And no, I’m not talking about Social Security or Medicare or any of the existing hot buttons. I’m talking about Infrastructure, Industry subsidies, arcane and obsolete policies that exist only for political reasons, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/67 "2013-11-27T02:47:23Z")
My guess is Ms. Clinton. I can only hope the GOP will come to its senses and nominate a moderate so that we can have a genuine debate about the future of our fair republic in the 21st century. But, I can hope for a lot of things. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/68 "2013-11-27T06:36:19Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > I can only hope the GOP will come to its senses and nominate a moderate so that we can have a genuine debate about the future of our fair republic in the 21st century. Wouldn’t hold your breath. Even for those that DO think the Republican Party needs to change, there’s nearly always an undercurrent that the problem is “messaging.” That the problem is really with them saying the things they believe, not that they believe the bullshit it in the first place. Nearly non-existent is the conservative who will admit that it’s the platform itself that’s part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/69 "2013-11-27T10:44:05Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > If it’s George Clinton, maybe. But only in the Iowa caucus. George would want to get rid of Congress and install a Parliament. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/70 "2013-11-27T12:38:23Z")
Gyrate for the win. I’d vote for that. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/71 "2013-11-27T12:58:39Z")
With Bootsy Collins as the Secretary of _Funk_. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/72 "2013-11-27T14:00:24Z")
Imagine the inaugural. The President elect descending on a spaceship… ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/73 "2013-11-27T14:57:09Z")
Bow wow wow yippee yo yippee yay… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/74 "2013-11-27T15:25:23Z")
> [@Honesty](#): > > My personal preference is that Elizabeth Warren succeeds Obama just because I’d like to see what would happen to America if it really elected a liberal to the White House. Nominating Warren would be a huge mistake in my opinion. It would be a repeat of the mistake the Republicans have been making - assuming you can nominate a candidate who appeals to your fringe and then expecting the general electorate to support that candidate. The Democrats have been winning elections by nominating the more moderate candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/75 "2013-11-27T15:30:05Z")
> [@Cyberhwk](#): > > Wouldn’t hold your breath. Even for those that DO think the Republican Party needs to change, there’s nearly always an undercurrent that the problem is “messaging.” That the problem is really with them saying the things they believe, not that they believe the bullshit it in the first place. Nearly non-existent is the conservative who will admit that it’s the platform itself that’s part of the problem. The problem is the Republicans don’t want to admit Reagan was a fluke. He was an incredibly charismatic guy and people liked him regardless of what his politics were. He didn’t win because he was a conservative; he won bacause he was Ronald Reagan. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/76 "2013-11-27T16:15:23Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The problem is the Republicans don’t want to admit Reagan was a fluke. He was an incredibly charismatic guy and people liked him regardless of what his politics were. He didn’t win because he was a conservative; he won bacause he was Ronald Reagan. And also because he wasn’t Jimmy Carter. I still believe the Reagan era did a lot of damage to America but there’s no denying the man had charisma and projected the sort of image of America that everyone was desperate for in the aftermath of the previous turbulent decades. Powerful stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/77 "2013-11-27T17:08:07Z")
I think Christie will win the general election if he can get through the primaries. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/78 "2013-11-27T17:31:57Z")
Has a big advantage with the Beltway, to be sure, and if he throws his full weight into the campaign… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/79 "2013-11-27T17:34:35Z")
It’s far too early to say. McCain could very well have won the 2008 election if not for the 2007-8 crash. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/80 "2013-11-27T17:51:59Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s far too early to say. McCain could very well have won the 2008 election if not for the 2007-8 crash. You mis-spelled Sarah Palin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677.md?page=5)