# Who do you think will succeed Obama? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 24, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677 "2013-11-24T16:43:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/101 "2013-11-30T18:31:57Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > I have never voted for republican for president. If EW ran, I would consider it. EW = Elizabeth Warren? What is it you dislike about her? I’m honestly not all that familiar with her politics. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/102 "2013-11-30T21:25:37Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > I have never voted for republican for president. If EW ran, I would consider it. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > EW = Elizabeth Warren? Or Earl Warren. But he’s a real longshot. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/103 "2013-11-30T21:38:47Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > EW = Elizabeth Warren? What is it you dislike about her? I’m honestly not all that familiar with her politics. Something to do with the not-really-Native-American Harvard “scandal”, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/104 "2013-11-30T22:27:42Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Something to do with the not-really-Native-American Harvard “scandal”, maybe. I’m sure the Fauxcahontis thing isn’t going to help, but I was thinking it was more about political positions since the poster said he had never voted for a Republican before. ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/105 "2013-12-01T00:08:49Z")
I see the Republicans winning the next election on a Skeletor-Hordak ticket ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/106 "2013-12-01T00:57:12Z")
> [@Asympotically\_fat](#): > > I see the Republicans winning the next election on a Skeletor-Hordak ticket Huh. I hadn’t heard that Rick Scott was planning on a run. The things you learn on the Dope! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/107 "2013-12-01T01:29:24Z")
It would explain what he wants the power of Greyskull for. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/108 "2013-12-01T23:11:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Nominating Warren would be a huge mistake in my opinion. It would be a repeat of the mistake the Republicans have been making - assuming you can nominate a candidate who appeals to your fringe and then expecting the general electorate to support that candidate. The Democrats have been winning elections by nominating the more moderate candidates. The other problem is that the Democrats are going to have to face is that these “moderate” Dems that keep getting nominated by the party are no different frrom Republicans on economic issues – they are entirely in the thrall of Wall Street, which has alienated a LOT of their base, especially the young. Some of us will not be voting for the Democratic candidate unless it IS Elizabeth Warren or someone else with strong anti-Wall Street cred. Obama has been such a disappointment in this respect … a total Wall Street lackey … leaves me and many others deeply cynical about the Democratic Party. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/109 "2013-12-02T00:26:04Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > EW = Elizabeth Warren? What is it you dislike about her? I’m honestly not all that familiar with her politics. Too liberal on economic issues, in my also-not-that-familiar opinion. The balance here for 'crats is moderates voting for 'pubs vs liberals not voting (because both candidates or too conservative for their liking). I’m not sure which makes sense for the party. When it comes down to an actual election, I might find her more palatable than anyone else. We’ll see. Right now the Righty-Tighty Loons seem loonier than the Lefty-Loosey Loons, so given ludicrous extremes for both candidates I’d probably vote for a LLL. Not saying she is one. The Fauxcahontis thing doesn’t really bug me. Maybe it should? But it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![madetea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@madetea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madetea)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/110 "2013-12-03T20:00:40Z")
I think a lot of Democrats are complacent about 2014. Christie could easily win the nomination in 2016 by letting the various moonbeams knock each other out and getting the nod as the consensus pick. Christie can easily win New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and would (I reckon) have a better than 50% chance of winning Ohio. That would leave the Democrats having to keep a hold of both Florida and Virginia, and (pretty much) holding onto all but one of Nevada, Colorado, Iowa and New Hampshire. That’s a big ask, Hilary or no. The Democrats would be better countering Christie’s regular guy schtick with Brian Schweitzer, who would play better in the rust belt as well as energising the base more than Clinton getting the nomination as it’s “her turn”. That said, who do I think will win in 2016? Clinton, over Christie. Just. By about about 10 EVs. A recount in Iowa, like 2000 except colder. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/111 "2013-12-03T20:28:14Z")
I expected us to lose the senate and some seats in the house in 2014, it is what we should expect historically. I hardly think that’s complacent, the shutdown would’ve had led to a historic defeat by the republicans if it happened closer to the elections, ditto the botched Obamacare rollout… but both are going to be ancient history by 2014. One thing i think WILL matter is the Republicans punting on immigration reform once again, let’s not forget it was they who brought it up first after the election and raised the hopes of millions of latinos just to yank the rug right from under them once again. That is gonna hurt them more than just ignoring the issue would have. If things remain as they, meaning the Republicans don’t go full retards on the debt ceiling/gov shutdown again and Obamacare works about as well as it has been working on the states that ran their own exchanges and nothing is done with regards to immigration, that the Dems will keep the senate and make very small gains in the house. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/112 "2013-12-03T20:40:30Z")
I dunno, I think by the 2014 elections most of the PPACA issues will be resolved and a whole lot of people will be a lot happier about it. President Obama will also be able to generically campaign for the Democrats on the basis of “I ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I didn’t get us into wars in Syria and Iran. Despite growing pains, the Affordable Care Act is working well for most Americans. We are on our way to being the largest producer of oil in the world, lessening our dependence on foreign oil. (blah blah blah, insert more factual gains here) Meanwhile all the Republicans have to show for themselves is that they have done their level best to obstruct the Business of Government at every turn.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/113 "2013-12-04T10:26:57Z")
> [@Honesty](#): > > **Chronos** , I think your reply here is a testament to the sad times we live. I think you should care about the city because it’s a part of the United States, though I admit, YMMV. For non-US dopers, if you’re wondering why there’s so much antipathy toward Detroit on this forum (and in general), please see the spoiler box below. > > Dear non-US and European dopers, > > Detroit is the is the only major metropolitan city in the United States whose African-American population is \>80%, even exceeding Atlanta the Chocolate City. Therefore, it should be obvious why the majority doesn’t care. Detroit has been stiffed from funds from the State since the early 90’s (including $200 million that Governor Snyder refuses to honor) and reduced/no federal revenue sharing over the last forty years. > > The U.S majority - bless their hearts - have been swept into a capitalist fervor; the majority believe that rampant consumerism is the pathway to happiness (i.e. gray thursday, black friday, cyber monday, etc), that economic globalization is a gift to humankind (e.g. “made in china” is awesome!), and governmental restraint on free market excess is the cause of economic turmoil and personal distress (i.e. “regulation is bad”, “tax loopholes are good!”, etc). Thus, the majority is incapable of seeing how having private corporations act as a “lender of last resort” to public municipalities will inevitably lead to privatization and increased costs to the people. For what it’s worth, I blame Fox News as well as reductions in education funding since the late 1970’s. While I generally agree with your assessment, it’s not as if Detroit doesn’t have a history of [corrupt assholes in charge](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Kilpatrick). That said, I suspect it’s less an issue of the corrupt assholes ruining the city than it is corrupt assholes being the only ones willing to run a ruined city for personal gain, since any responsible honest person would run a mile from trying to fix Detroit without some serious backup from the state and/or federal government (which, as you point out, they ain’t getting). There’s a reason _Robocop_ was set in Detroit. ---
**Author:** ![Itself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d07c76/32.png) [@Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/114 "2014-01-15T09:32:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Or Earl Warren. But he’s a real longshot. Yeah, between being a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and a sleazy male stripper, he probably doesn’t have time to run for office. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/115 "2014-01-16T17:12:17Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > these “moderate” Dems that keep getting nominated by the party are no different frrom Republicans on economic issues I can only pray that we never again have a Republican President and GOP control of Congress at the same time, because while you would find out just how wrong you are, that would be an awfully thin silver lining. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/116 "2014-01-16T17:18:04Z")
Here’s what will happen in 2015-16: Hillary will run. A few other candidates will run, but Hillary will blow them away, and win the nomination easily. She will then beat her TBD Republican opponent by ~6% of the vote. ---
**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/117 "2014-01-16T17:33:22Z")
At the moment my mind would bet on Hillary, but with the Republicans gaining seats in the house and senate with control of both sides of the the legislative branch. actually i think Republicans take the senate in 2014 and keep it in 2016. At the Presidential level, I would not be surprised at all to see the Republicans in circular firing squad mode for another 2 election cycles. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/118 "2014-01-16T17:37:40Z")
Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t see Hillary Clinton wanting it all that much. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if she simply decided to retire to private life. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/119 "2014-01-16T17:46:52Z")
What price being the first female POTUS? Her name will be in textbooks for centuries. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677/120 "2014-01-16T18:21:38Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I can only pray that we never again have a Republican President and GOP control of Congress at the same time, because while you would find out just how wrong you are, that would be an awfully thin silver lining. I too would deplore a GOP sweep of the federal government, but it wouldn’t be for economic reasons, because the GOP is basically a bunch of thieves mouthing whatever words will get their hands on The Money – or didn’t you notice how quick the Pubbies backed down when Wall Street told them to play ball on the deficit ceiling or The Money goes bye-bye? On other issues: women’s rights, the environment, immigration reform, drug law reform, and on and on … a Republican sweep would be a disaster. On economic issues … meh. Whether they have a D or an R after their names (with a very few exceptions, and Obama is not one of them) Congress is controlled by Wall Street. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-think-will-succeed-obama/674677.md?page=7)