# Who do you want to win the Democratic nomination for President? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 1, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814 "2016-02-01T04:24:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/21 "2016-02-01T20:25:26Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What about those of who lean neither left nor right? Or, at best, lean left on certain things and right on others? > > The left leaning part of me wants Bernie to win, as someone who will get us out of these fucking wars and [at lest try to] reduce the military budget. The right leaning part of me wants Hillary to win, as someone who will keep an emphasis on free trade and not give in to destructive, populist economic policies. > > But the left leaning part of me is concerned about Bernie’s viability as a national candidate. If he’s running against Trump, I think he can win. Anyone else, and I think he loses. So the left leaning part of me won’t be too concerned if Hillary wins the nomination. She’s good enough. What he said. I’m excited for the future Bernie posits but I’d be satisfied with a Clinton presidency. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/22 "2016-02-01T20:25:47Z")
Left leaning, full in for Hillary. I think she’s actually going to be able to navigate the morass of Washington - Obama took a full term plus to govern the way that Hillary Clinton would have on the first day (ie, not trying to bend over backwards to get GOP votes that just aren’t coming, but just force through things anyway you can). ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/23 "2016-02-01T20:27:02Z")
I have seen this argument so many times, including from Bernie himself: “The GOP will mount various attacks, regardless of whom we nominate.” Uh, yeah…but voters do actually have brains, believe it or not. Attacks that are either factually untrue or come across as much ado about nothing do not have the same purchase as those that are largely true and shocking to “Middle America”. Yes, I know Bernheads hear “socialist atheist who honeymooned in the USSR” and either shrug it off or think it actually sounds pretty cool. But that is not how the vast majority of people over 35 in this country think! And they are the ones who vote en masse. (Maybe in another 30 years someone like Bernie can be uncontroversial.) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/24 "2016-02-02T00:11:38Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Bernheads love those trial heat polls; the only problem is that Nate Silver, who is the guru of these matters, has shown that they are meaningless at this stage. Most voters don’t yet know about the stuff I was talking about: the Soviet honeymoon, the agnosticism or atheism; the advocacy of nationalizing major industries, etc. But if he becomes the nominee, you can be sure that Republicans will make sure everybody knows it. I believe that the preferred term is “BernOut.” ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/25 "2016-02-02T00:28:36Z")
Didn’t vote - poll too limited. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/26 "2016-02-02T01:03:50Z")
I am an independent. Barring indictment or dropping out, Clinton will win the Democratic nomination. Bernie Sanders is a good man, but he cannot achieve his goals with Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan in Congress. It’s too far-left. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/27 "2016-02-02T01:15:28Z")
I’m okay with both candidates (plus O’Malley), but right now I’m slightly leaning Hillary. I like Bernie better on the issues, but I think he’s a lot weaker general election candidate, and they’re close enough on the issues that electability trumps it right now. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/28 "2016-02-02T04:49:53Z")
Clinton is a liar and stands for nothing but power, and she would be as hated by a Republican legislator as anyone alive. Sanders seems like a man who actually would try to help his country. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/29 "2016-02-02T05:15:49Z")
Looks like O’Malley is now out of the race - and too bad. Clinton is definitely more electable than Sanders, but once in the White House, she’d be facing a generation’s worth of accumulated GOP hostility, distrust and bile. I’m afraid she’d be able to get even less done than Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/30 "2016-02-02T05:29:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Looks like O’Malley is now out of the race - and too bad. Clinton is definitely more electable than Sanders, but once in the White House, she’d be facing a generation’s worth of accumulated GOP hostility, distrust and bile. I’m afraid she’d be able to get even less done than Obama. They would do that regardless of who the Democrat is-at least Clinton is used to it and is under no illusion about “bipartisanship” in this day and age. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/31 "2016-02-07T00:27:21Z")
I think the Democratic nominee is likely to win no matter who gets the Republican nomination. Hillary will be bad, but not as bad as Sanders. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/32 "2016-02-07T06:14:35Z")
Sanders is far superior and ore genuine than Clinton and this country would be better off with him as president. His message is that America can be much better, can have better healthcare and other socialogo grams like say Denmark, and more equity. Hillary is like we have to be thankful for what we got and not to dream too much. Sanders allows voters who think outside the box and assure them that the country could be vastly improved. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/33 "2016-02-07T06:41:50Z")
Hillary is for those who feel it can’t get any better, and this is as good as it good as it gets. Prgmatic, read boring and can’t think outside he box. Bernie is for those who think things can always be better, and things are possible and being a dreamer or idealist is possible. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/34 "2016-02-09T15:36:42Z")
My heart wants Bernie; my head wants Hillary. I went with my head on this poll. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/35 "2016-02-09T16:32:18Z")
Lean left, going for Clinton. I think she’s more electable and, while neither Democratic candidate really excites me, Clinton I can accept as a workhorse who’ll more or less keep the lights on and the boat afloat. Stuff’s just getting back to stable, I don’t need someone trying to uproot the system until my house is paid off. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/36 "2016-02-09T16:59:13Z")
I like Bernie a lot. I don’t really care much for Hillary. I am voting for Hillary, pragmatism and all that. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/37 "2016-02-09T17:15:19Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I have seen this argument so many times, including from Bernie himself: “The GOP will mount various attacks, regardless of whom we nominate.” Uh, yeah…but voters do actually have brains, believe it or not. Attacks that are either factually untrue or come across as much ado about nothing do not have the same purchase as those that are largely true and shocking to “Middle America”. Yes, I know Bernheads hear “socialist atheist who honeymooned in the USSR” and either shrug it off or think it actually sounds pretty cool. But that is not how the vast majority of people over 35 in this country think! And they are the ones who vote en masse. (Maybe in another 30 years someone like Bernie can be uncontroversial.) So, voters actually **don’t** have brains? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/38 "2016-02-09T17:18:23Z")
There’s no option for “I have no fucking idea.” For once, I’m glad to have a little time to watch the primaries unfold before it’s my turn to cast my ultimately meaningless vote. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/39 "2016-02-09T17:24:42Z")
Am I the only one who finds the poll results in this thread interesting? There are a lot more “lean left” than “lean right” responses, but among both groups, the split is about the same. I would have expected the folks who lean left to go more strongly for Sanders, and the folks who lean right to go more strongly for Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/40 "2016-02-09T17:31:07Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Am I the only one who finds the poll results in this thread interesting? There are a lot more “lean left” than “lean right” responses, but among both groups, the split is about the same. I would have expected the folks who lean left to go more strongly for Sanders, and the folks who lean right to go more strongly for Clinton. Some left-leaners want Clinton because they see her as more electable, or better-suited to get things done working with a Pub Congress. I can’t think of any reason why any right-leaners would want Sanders . . . unless they’re **really** right-leaning, i.e., Pubs thinking strategically. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814.md?page=3)