# Who do you want to win the Democratic nomination for President? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 1, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814 "2016-02-01T04:24:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/41 "2016-02-09T17:33:01Z")
I lean left and want Clinton. Nothing matter more than preventing a GOP presidency. I’m very pro-Sanders and his positions, but I feel Clinton will be a stronger candidate ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/42 "2016-02-09T17:48:08Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Am I the only one who finds the poll results in this thread interesting? There are a lot more “lean left” than “lean right” responses, but among both groups, the split is about the same. I would have expected the folks who lean left to go more strongly for Sanders, and the folks who lean right to go more strongly for Clinton. Most Democrats consider themselves to “lean left”. The center wasn’t fully defined - was it the center of the Democratic Party or the center of the general electorate. I thought it was the latter, to be honest (I’m probably in the center of the party, which makes me definitely lean left concerning the general electorate). ---
**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/43 "2016-02-09T18:19:55Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I can’t think of any reason why any right-leaners would want Sanders . . . unless they’re **really** right-leaning, i.e., Pubs thinking strategically. Bingo, they think he’s more beatable. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/44 "2016-02-09T18:55:01Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Hillary because I think she has more realistic ideas about what can actually get done. Sanders may be right in that we need a revolution, but you can count me out. Exactly this, for me. Some of Sanders’ ideas may be laudable, but he will be unable to get any of them passed, in any variation, so it will be a waste of four (or eight) years, and likely to beat out the Obama presidency for being unable to get much past a legislature that is only intent on taking care of their jobs, not the country. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/45 "2016-02-09T18:58:59Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Sanders may be right in that we need a revolution, but you can count me out. Can we have one in 2020, then? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/46 "2016-02-09T19:04:35Z")
Or is it always to be “jam tomorrow”? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/47 "2016-02-09T19:12:09Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I lean, um, center, but my preferred candidate and the one I’ll vote for is Clinton. If Sanders wins the nomination I’ll be voting for some 3rd party, since IMHO all the Republicans are crazy and/or don’t appeal to me at all. My stance as well. Hillary is the only mainstream candidate I can vote for. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/48 "2016-02-09T19:14:25Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Can we have one in 2020, then? Well, you know we all want to change the world. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/49 "2016-02-09T20:14:44Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I have seen this argument so many times, including from Bernie himself: “The GOP will mount various attacks, regardless of whom we nominate.” Uh, yeah…but voters do actually have brains, believe it or not. Attacks that are either factually untrue or come across as much ado about nothing do not have the same purchase as those that are largely true and shocking to “Middle America”. Yes, I know Bernheads hear “socialist atheist who honeymooned in the USSR” and either shrug it off or think it actually sounds pretty cool. But that is not how the vast majority of people over 35 in this country think! And they are the ones who vote en masse. (Maybe in another 30 years someone like Bernie can be uncontroversial.) You’ve said this many times. Do you have **any evidence whatsoever** that voters will be **more** bothered by Sanders’s 1980s travels than they will by Clinton’s Benghazi/email server/Travelgate/Whitewater/Vince Foster stuff? I’m completely setting aside whether any of these are actual scandals, whether they’re smears, whatever–what evidence do you have to support your implication that Sander’s communist honeymoon bothers people more than Clinton’s flouting of email rules? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/50 "2016-02-09T20:41:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What about those of who lean neither left nor right? Or, at best, lean left on certain things and right on others? > > The left leaning part of me wants Bernie to win, as someone who will get us out of these fucking wars and [at lest try to] reduce the military budget. The right leaning part of me wants Hillary to win, as someone who will keep an emphasis on free trade and not give in to destructive, populist economic policies. > > But the left leaning part of me is concerned about Bernie’s viability as a national candidate. If he’s running against Trump, I think he can win. Anyone else, and I think he loses. So the left leaning part of me won’t be too concerned if Hillary wins the nomination. She’s good enough. > [@RickJay](#): > > Clinton is a liar and stands for nothing but power, and she would be as hated by a Republican legislator as anyone alive. Sanders seems like a man who actually would try to help his country. I don’t know that I’d call her a liar (that is, not any more of a liar than your typical pol), but you’re right that she’s power-hungry and the more I think of an actual Clinton presidency, the less I like it. I’m leaning much more towards Bernie as the election draws nearer. Frankly, I don’t think either Clinton or Sanders will get anything thru Congress. But that’s mostly domestic stuff, and I’m more or less OK with that. But on foreign policy, I much more in Bernie’s camp than in Hillary’s. Bernie will get us the hell out of these fucking wars, but I’m afraid Hillary will drag it on and on and on (as Obama is doing). And Congress has much less control over foreign policy. So, I’m jumping on the Bern-wagon, and hoping he gets the nomination. As time goes on, I see him more and more electable, too. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/51 "2016-02-09T20:43:22Z")
If it’s not Clinton, I clearly will not vote for Sanders. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/52 "2016-02-09T20:45:28Z")
So long Martin O’Malley, we hardly knew ye. Bleh, so HRC, I guess. Sanders would be the most isolated president since I don’t know when. His proposals are outside the democratic mainstream. We would be faced with the spectacle of dems joining with republicans to override his vetoes. I really don’t care for Hillary Clinton. After the Marc Rich pardon, I was hoping the Clintons would fade away completely. Sure she’s competent and capable, but she also seems a lot like the republicans vying for the nomination: seeking power for the sake of having power. I didn’t vote for Obama because he’s black, and I wouldn’t vote for Hillary because I think it’s high time a woman was in the oval office. But what choice is there? Bernie is unelectable, but his fans just can’t accept it. So woo-hoo, go Hillary. She is light years better than having an overly-emotional, reactionary, impulsive, bigoted, insecure shouter like Trump as Commander in Chief. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/53 "2016-02-09T20:52:59Z")
The Democratic Governors’ Association put up a poll on their website asking whom you support, Hillary or Bernie. It is very telling that Hillary’s name is the only name visible on the survey, you have to scroll down in the one-line box to find Bernie’s name. ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/54 "2016-02-10T13:17:24Z")
I am not really enamored with Sec. Clinton or Sen. Sanders but I suspect that Sen. Sanders campaign will not make much headway after Super Tuesday, and he will eventually drop out. Flawed as she is, I think Sec. Clinton will get the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/55 "2016-02-10T14:05:58Z")
I am hoping it’s Sanders, providing the GOP nominee is anyone except Trump. Because Bernie will lose badly and anyone except Trump would win. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/56 "2016-02-10T16:12:22Z")
I’m an independent, but lean towards traditional old-school Republican (hey, put down that rotten fruit and hear me out!) Given the choice between Clinton and Sanders, I lean towards Sanders, mainly because I LOATHE hillary, given a choice between, let’s say Cthulhu or Clinton? The Great Old One gets my vote, even if it means I am eaten last, I’d trust Cthulhu before I’d trust hillary That said, I don’t like any of the 'pubbies either, not sure which scares me more, a Trump administration or a hillary administration… Nope, Cthulu is still more trustworthy ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/57 "2016-02-10T16:19:20Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > So long Martin O’Malley, we hardly knew ye. > > Bleh, so HRC, I guess. Sanders would be the most isolated president since I don’t know when. His proposals are outside the democratic mainstream. We would be faced with the spectacle of dems joining with republicans to override his vetoes. And then, in the midterms, being replaced by challengers from their left. You really don’t seem to appreciate the seismic shift that’s going on in the party. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/58 "2016-02-10T17:10:42Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > …I didn’t vote for Obama because he’s black… I had to read that a couple of times before I figured out what you meant. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/59 "2016-02-10T17:17:09Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > If it’s not Clinton, I clearly will not vote for Sanders. Why not? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814/60 "2016-02-10T17:30:46Z")
Left-leaning. I would vote for either one if they got the nomination. I will vote for Clinton in a primary. Bernie has the better ideals, but Clinton has the better plans. I also like her ideas on things that are incredibly important to me (and I think to the American economy) such as caregiver credits. I don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good and I try to avoid purity tests. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-want-to-win-the-democratic-nomination-for-president/744814.md?page=4)