# Who does the Republican establishment hate more: Cruz or Trump?

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**Created:** [March 6, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-does-the-republican-establishment-hate-more-cruz-or-trump/748090 "2016-03-06T03:44:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-does-the-republican-establishment-hate-more-cruz-or-trump/748090/41 "2016-03-08T02:41:29Z")

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I’ll give you that - but his stated reason for it is that he doesn’t believe the Supreme Court is acting as it was intended to, and instead has become a kind of extra legislative branch that gets the last word. So instead of being the control valve on government overreach, it’s become the enabler of it. I don’t know if I buy that, but I think that’s what he believes.

Of course, if another two conservatives land on the bench, I suspect Liberals will start saying the same thing - and Republicans will react to that by claiming any criticism of the court is beyond the pale. What Cruz would do in that case I don’t know. But I honestly don’t think he’s motivated by personal power - he’s on a mission to fix what he sees as a broken system - not to build up personal power and profit. Donald Trump, on the other hand…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-does-the-republican-establishment-hate-more-cruz-or-trump/748090/42 "2016-03-08T02:45:50Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Said another way, there’s plenty of territory available for Tim Horton’s. As long as they don’t try a frontal assault through New England. They’d probably be fought to the death right at the border by DD & KK.

KK tried to make a go of it in New England, but got driven out by the masses of Dunks’ loyalists who prefer their coffee and doughnuts to have a little mass to them.

If you’re hankering for some Timbits, just go to Dunks and get a box of Munchkins. _They’re the same damn thing!_

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-does-the-republican-establishment-hate-more-cruz-or-trump/748090/43 "2016-03-08T02:47:59Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Of course, if another two conservatives land on the bench, I suspect Liberals will start saying the same thing - and Republicans will react to that by claiming any criticism of the court is beyond the pale. W

I may be wrong but I don’t remember anyone, on either side, come up with such a load of partisan bullshit as Cruz did.

And the smarmy bastard has the nerve to claim to be a Constitutional scholar.

After all, where was his outrage at “five unelected judges” in such cases as Hobby Lobby, Citizens United and the 2000 election (all 5-4 decisions)?

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