# Who else is gay in Archie comics?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 23, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060 "2010-04-23T01:40:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/21 "2010-04-23T14:49:14Z")

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> [@postcards](#):
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> No, they were legitimate [Archie comics](http://generationexploitation.blogspot.com/2006/06/history-of-christian-archi_114951302719460209.html).

Reading that I found myself imagining an alternate-history version where Spire Comics was a **Mormon** imprint.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/22 "2010-04-23T15:02:37Z")

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I haven’t read an Archie comic in like 30 years, but didn’t there always used to be a running gag that Jughead didn’t like girls?

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/23 "2010-04-23T15:06:10Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I haven’t read an Archie comic in like 30 years, but didn’t there always used to be a running gag that Jughead didn’t like girls?

Specifically, he was pursued by Big Ethel, a girl whom he found quite revolting.

Yeah, my money’s on Jughead.

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**Author:** ![Oregon\_sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/50afbb/32.png) [@Oregon\_sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oregon_sunshine)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/24 "2010-04-23T15:25:11Z")

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I’m lookin at Jughead here.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/25 "2010-04-23T15:29:25Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> Specifically, he was pursued by Big Ethel, a girl whom he found quite revolting.
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> Yeah, my money’s on Jughead.

Look, how drunk would **you** have to be to get with Big Ethel?!

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/26 "2010-04-23T15:48:44Z")

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Does anyone remember when it was revealed that Jughead’s real name is Forsythe? And that the reason he goes by the moniker Jughead is because the name Forsythe affects women the way Axe body wash fragrance does?

Odd, I’m a woman, and I seem to be immune. Forsythe, Forsythe, Forsythe…mmm, nope, not getting the least bit horny. But I wouldn’t name my kid Forsythe either. Not sure if that means anything.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/27 "2010-04-23T15:51:43Z")

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[Josie and the Pussycats](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josie_and_the_Pussycats_(comics)) always seemed like a campy lesbo band to me. Josie’s sort of average, Val’s a bit butch and Melody’s coquettish. And Alexandra Cabot’s a conniving, pulp novel-style sexual predator.

I love that Archie did this, BTW. Good for them.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/28 "2010-04-23T15:54:45Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I don’t know the names of any of the Archie artists, but I recognize the oddball style of the robot-story artist - everyone seems to be leaning forward, as though bipedal evolution had not completely taken hold in Riverdale.

Its that strong headwind from the impending homostorm.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/29 "2010-04-23T16:35:55Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I don’t know the names of any of the Archie artists, but I recognize the oddball style of the robot-story artist - everyone seems to be leaning forward, as though bipedal evolution had not completely taken hold in Riverdale.

Blondie’s artists use that same style. Or rather, the original artist did, and set the style. It’s especially apparent in the men in Blondie, the women aren’t nearly as affected.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/30 "2010-04-23T17:10:33Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> “Archie is the bitch and Jughead is the butch. That’s why Jughead wears that crown-looking hat all the time.”

Because he’s the king of Queen Archie.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/31 "2010-04-23T19:49:14Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Miss Grundy, I’m guessing.

This was my first thought too. I never thought of any of the Archie kids as being gay.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/32 "2010-04-23T20:08:49Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Mr. Weatherby.

> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> Definitely Mrs. Grundy.

Nah, Weatherbee and Grundy are totally bonin’.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/33 "2010-04-23T20:14:19Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Nah, Weatherbee and Grundy are totally bonin’.

Yeah, but not the way you think. Grundy has a bitchin strap on and Weatherbee knows how to squeel.

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/34 "2010-04-23T20:26:26Z")

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Logically, there has to be at least one … or Kevin’s going to be pretty lonely.

I don’t actually remember a Kevin character. I do know that while Jughead didn’t date, he had a weird-shaped pin for his hat that would make him irresistible to females … sort of like Axe body spray, but without the stench. That was somewhere around 30 years ago. Of course, he didn’t use that pin very often.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/35 "2010-04-23T21:27:54Z")

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> [@Greg\_Charles](#):
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> Logically, there has to be at least one … or Kevin’s going to be pretty lonely.
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> I don’t actually remember a Kevin character. I do know that while Jughead didn’t date, he had a weird-shaped pin for his hat that would make him irresistible to females … sort of like Axe body spray, but without the stench. That was somewhere around 30 years ago. Of course, he didn’t use that pin very often.

I remember that pin. In one comic, even Dilton’s robot “maid”, Theta was smitten with him.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/36 "2010-04-23T23:09:49Z")

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> [@postcards](#):
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> No, they were legitimate [Archie comics](http://generationexploitation.blogspot.com/2006/06/history-of-christian-archi_114951302719460209.html).

Good quote from that article:

_As long as it featured Jughead’s misogyny and a page of Li’l Jinx that I was guaranteed never to laugh at, I was game._

Yeah, Lil’ Jinx did suck. I always hated those.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/37 "2010-04-24T00:46:35Z")

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> [@missred](#):
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> _nitpick_
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> They live in Riverdale.

How charming, such naivete, **missred** , if it were genuine. You can’t pretend we don’t all know this _roman à clé_ inside and out.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/38 "2010-04-25T10:58:20Z")

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Getty is a militant lesbian, as is Veronica.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/39 "2010-04-25T23:04:37Z")

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Kevin’s first friend- and the first person he admits he’s gay to- is Jughead. I think that’s all the explanation needed. As to the fact that Jughead is secretly gay.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-else-is-gay-in-archie-comics/537060/40 "2010-04-26T19:51:15Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> Kevin’s first friend- and the first person he admits he’s gay to- is Jughead. I think that’s all the explanation needed. As to the fact that Jughead is secretly gay.

Well, that’s exposition for the setup. Would _ **you** _ have known that Kevin is gay unless he told somebody or otherwise expressed it overtly in his actions?

The point of my OP, however, is that it’s impossible for a comic book character to be secretly gay, simply because he or she has no existence beyond the pages of the book. The presupposition which the media posit simply by using the term “openly gay” when referring to Kevin is almost childlike.

Are you predicting, then, that Jughead will out himself soon? I wonder how that will come about, and if it will involve hamburgers or milkshakes.

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