# Who feels like a good cry? New Line has posted a couple of new ROTK clips. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 29, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484 "2004-01-29T00:00:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/21 "2004-01-29T23:11:52Z")
People have complained the first movie had no ending. The same people thought the second movie had no ending. Finally we get to a proper ending, and now there are too many? Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/22 "2004-01-29T23:19:38Z")
It was a really good movie, and it really did go on much too long. > [@](#): > > 1. On the slopes of Mt. Doom, the scene where Gandalf arrives with the eagles. Followed by the bedroom reunion scene between the members of the Fellowship. I dare ANYONE to say that these scenes are superfluous. They were absolutely essential. I thought the bedroom scene was awful. A reunion scene was needed, but it might’ve been the worst-executed thing in the trilogy. The whole thing did NOT have to be slo-mo, and that many slowed down reaction shots would’ve made any scene drag and look silly. > [@](#): > > 1. Aragorn’s coronation, Arwen’s arrival and “you bow to no one.” Again, I don’t think anyone could say that these scenes were unnecessary. In fact, they’re vital to the plot. It was a good scene. Would’ve been a good ending, too. It’s not that the scenes were unnecessary (that counts for the last two as well). Perhaps it’s just the way they were done. The movie felt like it ended five or six times. That’s bad. I enjoyed it and even I was wondering when they were going to just finish. There plot we’d spent 10 hours watching was concluded, so there was no pace or drama in any of these last scenes, which I think lasted about half an hour. ---
**Author:** ![DaPearl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@DaPearl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaPearl)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2004, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/23 "2004-01-29T23:28:49Z")
I’ve read the books and I never complained about the endings or some would say the lack there-of in the first two movies in the trilogy. I rather enjoyed the first two, but I felt the third had serious problems, mostly in that it needed more judicious editing, especially in the never-ending endings. ---
**Author:** ![Delly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Delly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delly)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/24 "2004-01-30T00:47:14Z")
I agree with Marley in that the slowing down of the Frodos bedroom scene was just really bad, how else could I put it? It makes Gandalf look like some sort of insane man the way hes laughing, and the others look slightly possessed, but as for the neverending endings, I didnt think there were too many, it wrapped the films up rather nicely, the idea of just leaving Sam & Frodo on the rock? Please I think LOTR Fans across the globe would have been calling for Jacksons blood! On a different note, just a small question regardsing the scene at the end of the movie when the Hobbits find themselves back in the pub? Did anyone else think the hobbit holding the pumpkin was the spitting image of Andy Serkis when he was done up as a hobbit in the flashback at the start of the movie? If any of you go see the movie again, look for this, and see what you think, I thought it was him, of course I could be completely wrong… but I wondered, especially when you take into consideration that the Hobbit with the pumpkin is given a decent bit of screen time. ---
**Author:** ![Tremmie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Tremmie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tremmie)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/25 "2004-01-30T00:51:21Z")
> [@Delly](#): > > On a different note, just a small question regardsing the scene at the end of the movie when the Hobbits find themselves back in the pub? Did anyone else think the hobbit holding the pumpkin was the spitting image of Andy Serkis when he was done up as a hobbit in the flashback at the start of the movie?. It was him. ---
**Author:** ![Delly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Delly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delly)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/26 "2004-01-30T00:57:30Z")
And I bet everyone else knew, right? How did I miss that?! ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/27 "2004-01-30T01:59:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Not only is the bedroom scene superfluous, it was terrible. I hated hated hated that scene, all that was necesary was for Frodo to see Gandalf alive and maybe Sam. The hobbits jumping on the bed and the fellowship showing up one after another was just wince inducing. These sorts of crudely manipulative tripe really marred the movie for me. I desperately wanted a movie that would allow non-Tolkien fans to take it seriously. This made it, however much or little, a bit of a joke. I really liked that men cry and hold each other in this film(s). But the slow mo and melodrama tip over and fall down into goofy amatuerism pretty quickly. ---
**Author:** ![DaPearl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@DaPearl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaPearl)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/28 "2004-01-30T02:02:16Z")
the dozens of times in the movie where it looks like the hobbits are about to make out with eachother didn’t help the bedroom scene at the end either. ---
**Author:** ![Second\_Star\_to\_the\_Right](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Second\_Star\_to\_the\_Right](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Second_Star_to_the_Right)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/29 "2004-01-30T04:48:35Z")
> [@Tremmie](#): > > \and i don’t see why Merry and Pippin got as much props as Frodo and Sam on that “you bow to no one scene” Well, why wouldn’t they? Pippin foresaw the attack on Minas Tirith through the palantir(though accidentally so), lit the first beacon to alert Rohan of Gondor’s need for aid, and saved Faramir’s life. Merry helped defeat the Witch King, who was “Sauron’s deadliest servant”, according to Gandalf. All four hobbits played significant roles in the fate of Middle Earth. Merry and Pippin deserved to be honored just as much as Frodo and Sam did. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/30 "2004-01-30T05:11:04Z")
> [@](#): > > the idea of just leaving Sam & Frodo on the rock? Please I think LOTR Fans across the globe would have been calling for Jacksons blood! Again, I think the execution was the issue. There were at least four long, slow fades to black, which (even though I knew the movie wasn’t ending there) were kind of a fakeout. A simple cut would’ve worked fine and wouldn’t have given the impression the movie was over. ---
**Author:** ![gooti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@gooti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gooti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484/31 "2004-01-30T05:18:45Z")
The only reason I felt a slight tingle in my heart was beacuse no one has ever called me by my full given name when I wasn’t in trouble for some indescretion. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-feels-like-a-good-cry-new-line-has-posted-a-couple-of-new-rotk-clips/226484.md?page=1)