# Who gets/got more hatred: Bush or Obama: **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 18, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635 "2013-01-18T17:45:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/21 "2013-01-18T19:16:29Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Given the makup of the SDMB this thread is likely to be an interesting mix of people claiming that Bush didn’t get bashed, people claiming Bushed did get bashed a lot but deserved it and people just popping in to bash Bush. …a minority who will endlessly complain about the membership of the board sharing opinions, and a partridge in a pear tree. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/22 "2013-01-18T19:23:55Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Given the makup of the SDMB this thread is likely to be an interesting mix of people claiming that Bush didn’t get bashed, people claiming Bushed did get bashed a lot but deserved it and people just popping in to bash Bush. What a great idea! Somebody can put up a thread title, you can put words in everyone’s mouths, and the rest of us can take the day off and go bar -hopping. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/23 "2013-01-18T19:30:50Z")
Bush took the country into it’s first pre-emptive war based on either misinformation (at best) or outright lies (at worst). For that reason alone, no amount of vitriol is high enough. Is there one thing Obama has done that approaches this? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/24 "2013-01-18T19:46:21Z")
Darn me and my typos: …its first pre-emptive war… ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/25 "2013-01-18T20:18:11Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What a great idea! Somebody can put up a thread title, you can put words in everyone’s mouths, and the rest of us can take the day off and go bar -hopping. :rolleyes: It’s perfect that you mock me for this and then in the next post **Greenbean** comes in to display a perfect example of #2. “Bush got bashed but deserved it.” We should keep a tally. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/26 "2013-01-18T20:21:10Z")
I’d say it’s a no brainer…definitely Bush was hated more by the left than Obama is by the right. As with Obama, the dissing started even before the election. I remember lefties worried about Bush outlawing abortion and turning out millions of poor to starve in the street (and equally over the top partisan ranting). The 2000 election being ‘stolen’ pretty much set the stage for left wing views on Bush. For a time shortly after 9/11 things quieted down, even up through the Afghanistan invasion and even the early days of Iraq (relatively quiet), but by 2005 it really started to heat up and go completely over the top. As noted, one has but to look back at threads on this board. Can the OP seriously claim that there are more hate Obama threads than the numerous and frequent rants about Bush around here?? One of the things that has always stuck with me is the use graphic showing Bush and a chimp with various supposedly similar facial expressions and emotional body language. That, to me, typifies the mood and feeling and amount of rancor and hate the left had towards Bush. Now, here’s the thing…a lot of the stuff Bush did justified a certain amount of rancor from the left. It was over the top and ridiculous, but it wasn’t baseless IMHO. The man was a poor president, who made poor decisions and got us into at least one completely pointless war. But to seriously say that right wing hatred is on par with the campaign of hate the left launched against Bush for pretty much his whole presidency? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/27 "2013-01-18T20:31:18Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Just look at this board, for example. People generally refer to Obama as “Obama”. Bush was routinely referred to by many posters as “Shrub”, “Bushco” or other epithets. ‘Barry’, ‘Obmummer’, ‘Obumbles’, and ‘That Kenyan Muslim Marxist Guy’ would like a word with you. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/28 "2013-01-18T20:36:18Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > It’s perfect that you mock me for this and then in the next post **Greenbean** comes in to display a perfect example of #2. “Bush got bashed but deserved it.” > > We should keep a tally. First of all, you talking 'bout me? Interestingly, Greenbean was a childhood nickname of mine, but there’s only one SDMB poster that knew me as a child (that I’m aware of). Second, I’ll repeat: Bush started a war based on falsehoods. Name one thing Obama has done that even approaches this level of evil. Yes, Bush clearly deserves all the hatred I have for him. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/29 "2013-01-18T20:37:40Z")
> [@irae](#): > > ‘Barry’, ‘Obmummer’, ‘Obumbles’, and ‘That Kenyan Muslim Marxist Guy’ would like a word with you. Would you like to take a wild guess as to what comes up more in a search, ‘Shrub’ (as associated with Bush) or any of the ones you listed here (with the possible exception to ‘Barry’, which is both pretty innocuous AND just a regular name)? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/30 "2013-01-18T20:37:45Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Given the makup of the SDMB this thread is likely to be an interesting mix of people claiming that Bush didn’t get bashed, people claiming Bushed did get bashed a lot but deserved it and people just popping in to bash Bush. Would you deny any of those is appropriate? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/31 "2013-01-18T20:40:51Z")
> [@XT](#): > > As noted, one has but to look back at threads on this board. So now the SDMB **is** a fair representative sample/cross-section of the American public? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/32 "2013-01-18T20:42:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > So now the SDMB **is** a fair representative sample/cross-section of the American public? How does that correlate in your mind with what I said? To paraphrase from Princess Bride, truly you have a bewildering intellect. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/33 "2013-01-18T20:56:19Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Can the OP seriously claim that there are more hate Obama threads than the numerous and frequent rants about Bush around here?? If the question was who was hated more on the SDMB, Bush would win hands down. Duh. It wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/34 "2013-01-18T21:00:23Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > If the question was who was hated more on the SDMB, Bush would win hands down. Duh. It wasn’t. If that had been my whole post then you’d have a point. But, duh…it wasn’t. Ok though…perhaps you have some evidence that Obama is more hated that Bush is? My point of bringing up the general hated of Bush on THIS site is that this is a pretty mildly left leaning board…and he was extremely hated and attacked relentlessly HERE. What do you suppose they were saying on REALLY left leaning boards? Or foreign boards or discussion groups? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/35 "2013-01-18T21:04:12Z")
> [@irae](#): > > ‘Barry’, ‘Obmummer’, ‘Obumbles’, and ‘That Kenyan Muslim Marxist Guy’ would like a word with you. Stolen from the message board of a Fox News talking head, > [@](#): > > Don’t underestimate our ODS inflicted friends. The ‘thought-to-be’ creative list of sometimes clever, often funny, (sometimes just sad) names is longer than you may suspect. Here’s some I’ve gathered from posts on this forum: > > The Messiah, President Hussein, Mr. Michelle, McObama, Obumma, Chameleon-in-Chief, blowbama, Odimwit, President Suckypants, tax-and-redistribute Marxist troll, OweBamBam, Obama dodohead, marxist scumbag obama, clown in cheif, O’Bungler, Obamessiah, obamateur, President Infanticide, Barry Obungler, Communist in Chief, O-STUPID, narcisistic idiot, MaoBama, Hu$$ein, obobblehead, O’classless, Barak Carl Marx Obama, O’pology, O- **head, 0’Bomber, ODUMBER, O’fascist, moron in chief, dodohead, Odumba, Obuttwipe, b0z0bama, Ibama, Obagofhammers, Gaffer-in-Chief, Barry the Thug, king of golden goose liver eaters, Brat-in-Chief, ObamaNero, 0bungler, obama the hideous, obama the filth, comrade Soetoro, crybaby in chief, Dear Leader Obowma, Dictator Wannabee, piker-in-chief, Big Jerko Supremo, community, organizer in chief, Liar in Chief, barack The Inept, snot drooling asshat moron, O’Failure, Barak the Nothing, OMarxist, oBOMBa, His Imperious Majesty Barack the First, King Obama, punk ass idiot, ObaMagoo, Obamort, O-Ruin-The-Country-In-Only-3-Years, imam baraqi al hussein, assclown in chief, obamadinijad, Chairman Barry, Barack Insane Obama, Obamao, bumbling Statist jack ass, b0z0bama, O’Bamney, OBlowme, dirt bag messiah, Obama bin Liden, Fascist-in-Chief, Mr. Fair Share, knucklehead in chief, Obama the Job Slayer, Obowelmovements, O-Dark-Load, Collectivist-in-Chief, O-Homeboy-Thugboy, O-Voted-“Present”-HOW-Many-Times, O-Have-I-Ever-Fooled-YOU, O-Dark-Load, O-Piece-Of-** , President Gay Marriage, O-Inept-One, Ozbama, Chairman Hussein Bin el MAObama, Optimobama, Obama Been Liar, Obama Bin Biden, the O, Ditherer-in-Chief, king handout, Oblahblah, Oblamer, Pres. Been Liar, obama claus, commie Santa Obama Claus, President Pothead, Barry Choom, santa bama, and last but not least, the ever popular, GObama! the idiot! Add to that, King Barack I. We really do need to differentiate between things actually done and things that only exist in fevered imaginations. (See also: [Bill and Hillary Clinton](http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/clintons.asp) e.g. [The Clinton Body Count](http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp).) CMC ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/36 "2013-01-18T21:18:06Z")
I didn’t know it was a contest to see which narcissistic murderer with delusions of being an emperor was _worse_. It reflects only on people who value their membership in team red or team blue over basic human morality that either one would get a pass from anybody. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/37 "2013-01-18T21:21:22Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I’d say it’s a no brainer…definitely Bush was hated more by the left than Obama is by the right… Every slur that was used against Bush have also been used against Obama. But the reverse is not true. Can you point to prominent Democrats who came close to calling for their [state to secede](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html) or for [armed insurrection](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/sharron-angle-floated-2nd_n_614003.html) should Bush win? ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/38 "2013-01-18T21:29:41Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Every slur that was used against Bush have also been used against Obama. But the reverse is not true. > > Can you point to prominent Democrats who came close to calling for their [state to secede](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html) or for [armed insurrection](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/sharron-angle-floated-2nd_n_614003.html) should Bush win? There was a visible, noisy [Impeach Bush](http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer) movement, that actual Congressmen [acted on.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush#Kucinich.2FWexler_impeachment_articles) > [@](#): > > The most significant of these efforts occurred on June 10, 2008, when Congressman Dennis Kucinich, along with co-sponsor Robert Wexler, introduced 35 articles of impeachment against Bush to the U.S. House of Representatives. The House voted 251 to 166 to refer the impeachment resolution to the Judiciary Committee on July 25, where no further action was taken on it. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/39 "2013-01-18T21:46:28Z")
From the wiki article in **Human Action** ’s post: > [@](#): > > The first 4 impeachment articles charge the president with illegally creating a case for war with Iraq, including charges of a propaganda campaign, falsely representing Iraq as responsible for 9/11, and falsely representing Iraq as an imminent danger to the United States. I’m sure I said it up thread, but that’s enough for me. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635/40 "2013-01-18T21:49:07Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > From the wiki article in **Human Action** ’s post: > > I’m sure I said it up thread, but that’s enough for me. Point was, it’s a case of prominent Democrats engaged in the same sort of extreme political posturing as Perry and Angle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-gets-got-more-hatred-bush-or-obama/647635.md?page=3)