# WHO Has SAVED Christmas? Also, who HASN'T, but SHOULD? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 6, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211 "2012-12-06T18:37:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/41 "2012-12-07T15:08:30Z")
I think there should’ve been a _Three’s Company_ where Chrissy got to save Christmas. Seeing as that’s her name and all, it just seems apropos. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/42 "2012-12-07T15:21:42Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > And for extra fun, whom would you like to nominate to ALSO save Christmas? Satan. Though a clerical error, Satan is tasked with Christmas, while Santa is gets the job of tormenting sinners. On _this_ Christmas, the naughty kids get some really _interesting_ toys ("Daddy? What’s a ‘Necronomicon?’ "). Meanwhile, Santa is faced with a dilemma; the naughty folk in hell all have _plenty_ of coal. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/43 "2012-12-07T15:32:09Z")
Cthulhu ? (Have yourself a very Cthulhu Christmas) ---
**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/44 "2012-12-07T15:43:02Z")
How about The Avengers? I thought it would be a cute, lighthearted idea for a Marvel cartoon show (it can’t be Earth’s Mightiest Heroes now; maybe the upcoming Avengers Assemble) where one of the characters, after a night of the team watching old Christmas specials, has an episode-length dream sequence that affectionately parodies those old specials. Done in stop-motion. And you know how all those Rankin/Bass specials had a celebrity narrator of some sort, like Burl Ives as Sam the Snowman? What do you think of Stan the Snowman? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rubixcube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rubixcube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubixcube)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/45 "2012-12-07T16:03:23Z")
There have been a ton of holiday set Marvel issues over the decades. Not all of them count, but at least a few feature the heroes stopping some world threatening villain, which would in turn save Christmas. First one that comes to my mind is Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. #10, where Fury stops the Hatemonger from launching biological weapons on Christmas Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/46 "2012-12-07T16:09:31Z")
The Grinch and Ebeneezer Scrooge do not save Christmas. Christmas saves them. Is there a Venture Brothers save Christmas? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/47 "2012-12-07T16:16:03Z")
Lots of people mentioned Fred Flintstone, but where’s Fred Claus? Or Buddy Hobbs, in\*\*\* Elf\*\*\*? Let’s see… Mickey Mouse and friends had to help Mrs. Claus rescue Santa, in an episode of _ **The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.** _ Dore the Explorer’s cousin Diego had to rescue Santa with help from a llama. Jesus rescued Santa from Iraq, on _ **South Park** _, thereby saving Christmas. All the kids pitch in pennies to pay off Santa’s mortgage in the godawful movie “The Christmas That Almost Wasn’t.” The Labrador retriever puppy “buddies” had to save Christmas in _ **Santa Buddies.** _ Now, since I already think \*\*\*Die Hard \*\*\*is the greatest Christmas movie of all time, I’d like to see John McLain (Bruce Willis) take out a bunch of terrorists who’ve taken over the North Pole and are holding Santa hostage. ---
**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/48 "2012-12-07T16:18:31Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Manny the mammoth and his Ice Age crew saved Christmas in _Ice Age: A Mammoth Christmas_, a special as inexplicable as the Flintstones saving Christmas. I’d like to see a special where Adam and Eve save Christmas. Can’t get more nonsensical than that! ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/49 "2012-12-07T16:22:06Z")
Lee Majors saved Christmas! [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb7wQdf5eB0) ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/50 "2012-12-07T16:26:54Z")
> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#): > > Did Buffy or Angel ever save Christmas? I can’t recall them doing so, and you’d think they would have by now… Buffy saves Halloween a few times. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/51 "2012-12-07T16:28:10Z")
Saved Christmas: All the major DC superheroes. I remember buying an oversized collection that reprinted the stories back in the 70’s. I’d like to see **Pyramid Head** save Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/52 "2012-12-07T21:08:15Z")
In the late 80s or early 90s, there was a Superman story which established that Martha & Jon’s little boy gets thousands of letters each year, which sit at the post office most of the year as he’s slightly busy with alien invasions and hurricanes and volcanoes and such. During Yuletide he’d go to the post office and sort through the letters (in the story in question, Lois came along) and sorts through them–tossing anything whose aim is to make money but helping people he could help. Anyway – after the Death of Superman storyline, Wonder Woman and some other Justice Leaguers decided to tackle the letters (again at Christmastime). Even in aggregate, though, they had a much harder time getting shit done than Clark would’ve. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/53 "2012-12-08T00:50:24Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, Homer Simpson saved three Christmases versus eight he ruined … two were kind of a draw… I swear I didn’t see this post when I made mine… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/54 "2012-12-14T17:25:01Z")
Last night, Sheldon Cooper saved Christmas. Wait, no he didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/55 "2012-12-14T22:10:42Z")
[Dropo the Martian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus_Conquers_the_Martians) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/56 "2012-12-14T22:21:28Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > In the late 80s or early 90s, there was a Superman story which established that Martha & Jon’s little boy gets thousands of letters each year, which sit at the post office most of the year as he’s slightly busy with alien invasions and hurricanes and volcanoes and such. During Yuletide he’d go to the post office and sort through the letters (in the story in question, Lois came along) and sorts through them–tossing anything whose aim is to make money but helping people he could help. Superman reads his fan mail once a year?! 😕:rolleyes: Feeds into the whole Superdickery meme a little – what if someone wrote with a problem but it ripened (death, bankruptcy, etc.) while his/her letter was sitting gathering dust? Was he using this as a further weeding-out: “Oh well, he’s dead by now. Next letter!” 😛 Or did they make it clear in the story that “everyone knows” Supes reads his mail only during Christmastime? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/57 "2012-12-15T19:50:17Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > Superman reads his fan mail once a year?! 😕:rolleyes: Feeds into the whole Superdickery meme a little – what if someone wrote with a problem but it ripened (death, bankruptcy, etc.) while his/her letter was sitting gathering dust? Was he using this as a further weeding-out: “Oh well, he’s dead by now. Next letter!” 😛 Or did they make it clear in the story that “everyone knows” Supes reads his mail only during Christmastime? Actually, no, people in-universe don’t generally know that. Before the story, only Supes and the Metropolis Post Office generally; in the story, Lois found out because she was writing a story on the subject. And it’s not like he I don’t see it as any sort of dickery. Superman’s slightly busy, after all, and he has a life of his own. Almost by definition, the concerns communicated in the letters weren’t emergencies, since at a minimum a couple of days must have passed before Superman could possibly have read it. And the story made the point of their being reasonable limits to what he could do with super-powers anyway, or wanted to do. Many of the letters were of the “If you’ll use your X-ray vision to help me find oil deposits, I’ll split half the proceeds with them”; he tossed those aside without responding. As I recall, there was only one problem he could actualy address; an old German immigrant wanted to visit her sister in the homeland before either died, so he stopped mid-way through the letter-reading to fly her overseas. This took hours, since he couldn’t go anywhere near his top speed while carrying a passenger, and in the meantime Lois went through the letters, trashed all the money-making ventures, and sorted the rest for referrals to social agencies. That left a kid who wanted Superman to cure his father’s heart disease, which Supes couldn’t do; he went to talk to the kid anyway because he was a mensch. Why should Superman be obliged to read his fan mail at all? It’s not like he owes his fans for buying his records. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/58 "2012-12-15T20:28:40Z")
…stupid, cheap-ass _“FANS”_… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/59 "2012-12-15T20:32:07Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > …stupid, cheap-ass _“FANS”_… I have added a note to your already incredibly thick file. ---
**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211/60 "2012-12-16T02:40:28Z")
If we’re nominating people, I’d like to say that saving xmas for the entire world is a difficult task. I don’t celebrate the holiday myself, but if Katy Perry wants to show up and punish me for being a scrooge, I’ll allow it. Rashida Jones if Katy’s busy. Or both; I’ve been very naughty. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-saved-christmas-also-who-hasnt-but-should/643211.md?page=4)