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Gfactor,
Why does the meter man have to come inside? Meters are on the outside so that no one has to be home for the meter to be read. Most meters today are wireless and can be read from the street.
Does lying to the cops make one an apparent authority? Would that search be upheld?
How do either of these scenarios jibe with Little Nemos’?
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like the police showing up at my house when I’m not home and asking the meter man if they can search it
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**pravnik **said:
(Emphasis added).
I was trying to come up with a scenario that would support a reasonable belief. Obviously, the meter man can’t be outside in his uniform reading the meter and convincingly claim that he has authority to consent to a search. What’s needed is meter man pretending to be someone else or having other indicia of authority such that no further inquiry is required (maybe he’s got a key, for starters). In other words we aren’t talking about just any meter reader.
- I’m not sure meters are outside everywhere. They weren’t always so. For example, in Howard County Maryland,
http://www.co.ho.md.us/DPW/u_meters.htm
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At the end of my post, I discussed the possibility of an outside meter.
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The cases don’t seem to be concerned about whether the person has actual authority. They seem focused on the understanding of the person’s authority and whether the conclusion was reasonable based on what the officer knew at the time the consent was given. That’s because that’s the test for apparent authority:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US&case=/us/497/177.html
So there’s this two-pronged test:
- Is it reasonable to conclude, based on what the officer sees and hears, that the person has authority to give consent?
If it is, then the person has apparent authority. If it isn’t then,
- Does the person really have the authority to consent?
If he does, then the search is valid, based on actual authority, even though the officer shouldn’t have believed that the person had authority.
Lying isn’t part of the test. If the person lies convincingly, and there is nothing to suggest that he doesn’t have authority to consent.