# Who heckled Obama during his address to Congress? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496 "2009-09-10T00:52:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/341 "2009-09-11T04:49:58Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Why didn’t either of the other two Mods who posted in this thread break the link? It wouldn’t be political bias, would it? I’m betting it was because the mods are not infallible, and miss things sometimes. Yes, even two of them. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/342 "2009-09-11T04:57:07Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well, if you don’t end up getting a warning for the rule you apparently just broke there, I guess there’s no issue, eh? I went ahead and reported it. Assuming she isn’t a hypocrite she’ll either retract her complaint, or beg for her own discipline as well. Inb4 she does neither and demonstrates the blatant hypocrisy her side is known for. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/343 "2009-09-11T04:59:02Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Why didn’t either of the other two Mods who posted in this thread break the link? It wouldn’t be political bias, would it? > > Also, why is a '99’er allowed to break the rules with impunity? It’s obvious she knew better, but she went ahead anyway, because she knew she could get away with it. This is the problem with your whole “no warning issued” approach. _Won’t someone think of the children?!_ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/344 "2009-09-11T05:11:58Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > I went ahead and reported it. Assuming she isn’t a hypocrite she’ll either retract her complaint, or beg for her own discipline as well. I don’t moderate this forum, but _please_, don’t make me think of **Carol Stream** begging for discipline. ---
**Author:** ![kitemaker\_chuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a88e4f/32.png) [@kitemaker\_chuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitemaker_chuck)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/345 "2009-09-11T05:18:33Z")
Will Joe Wilson be Sarah Palin’s running mate in 2012? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/346 "2009-09-11T05:20:37Z")
> [@Mr. Moto](#): > > I think you’re wrong here on a matter of fact - when the Democrats booed Bush wasn’t talking about the war - he was talking about Social Security. > > Now, you certainly may have wanted to boo Bush over the war, but that was not what it was about. > > And frankly Social Security reform and health care reform might rank as roughly equivalent issues when you account for the amount of people affected by changes in the law and the amount of potential harm to the budget by poor policy. So no, no real differences. The war has jack to do with this. We’ve already established that booing is not the same as hollering out false accusations. There’s also a significant difference in that previous expressions of dissent have at least been held until natural applause breaks. There is no precedent that I know of for actually interrupting the President while he is speaking. I am certain the Dems never did that to Bush. I shudder to think what kind of blubbering hysterics the political right would be reduced to if anyone ever did that to poor Sarah Palin in any context whatever. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/347 "2009-09-11T05:35:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Hillbillies are like Tennesee, Arkansas, Kentucky… South Carolina is dead solid cracker, similar to the peckerwood, but lacking the culture and sophisitication. I’ll admit that I last lived in Hillbilly Country four decades ago, but you give them a disservice by assuming that the residents, then or now, are nothing but GWB fellators. When I lived there there was a healthy helping of Wobblies, followers of Mother Jones, and assorted other pinkos. You may be confused because Texas is flat, as politics tends to follow the terrain. Our area was NOT flat, except perhaps to Sherpas, and they had been politicized since before the Civil War. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/348 "2009-09-11T05:37:12Z")
> [@kitemaker\_chuck](#): > > Will Joe Wilson be Sarah Palin’s running mate in 2012? I assume they are “doing it” already. HAH! Where’s your brain bleach NOW, motherfuckers? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![legalsnugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@legalsnugs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/legalsnugs)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/349 "2009-09-11T07:59:24Z")
Is there any way to find out how much Joe Wilson has raised in contributions from his supporters since the speech? My google-fu is too weak to find anything. Thanks. P.S. Rob Miller is $698,000+. Go, Rob, go!! ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/350 "2009-09-11T10:54:53Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Why didn’t either of the other two Mods who posted in this thread break the link? It wouldn’t be political bias, would it? > > Also, why is a '99’er allowed to break the rules with impunity? It’s obvious she knew better, but she went ahead anyway, because she knew she could get away with it. This is the problem with your whole “no warning issued” approach. Actually, I didn’t know better. My join date may say 1999, but I took a good seven-year hiatus from the boards, and missed that particular rule change. I won’t do it again, but I’m not even remotely sorry that I did it, especially since it got you all riled up. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/351 "2009-09-11T12:20:59Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > I didn’t say he _has to_, just that it would be a nice way for him to actually show some contrition. As things stand, I don’t believe a word of his forced apology, and no one else should either. That being the case, he needs to be _punished_ for breaking the rules. Which I agree with. As I saidnear the beginning of the thread, he should be censured. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/352 "2009-09-11T12:22:17Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Why didn’t either of the other two Mods who posted in this thread break the link? It wouldn’t be political bias, would it? > > Also, why is a '99’er allowed to break the rules with impunity? It’s obvious she knew better, but she went ahead anyway, because she knew she could get away with it. This is the problem with your whole “no warning issued” approach. [QUOTE=Pit Rules] No complaints about SDMB administration in the Pit All comments or complaints about SDMB administration should go in the About This Message Board forum, not in the Pit. Pitting of SDMB staff is permitted for views they express as ordinary posters. [/QUOTE] **Carol Stream** , you should know better than this. And since you believe every infraction merits a warning or worse, I hope you’ll see the fairness in my issuing you one. Let me make it very clear: Stop junior modding and stop hijacking threads with argmunentative questions about my moderation. You are free to start a thread in atmb, PM me, or e-mail me about these things, but DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN. \*\* Gfactor\*\* Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/353 "2009-09-11T13:30:29Z")
Hey, welcome back, Drain Bead. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/354 "2009-09-11T13:41:20Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > > [@Stephe96](#): > > > > That reminds me of something: Obama keeps talking about the time for taking action being NOW…so why isn’t his proposal going into effect until 2013? I’m guessing he realizes it will be such an unmitigated disaster that he doesn’t want its impact to hinder his reelection chances. > > The effects start to roll out immediately. They just aren’t fully instated until 2013. > > Incidentally, that would have been answered for you if you were the sort to think: I have a question, I will see if I can find the answer, instead of one who thinks, I have a question, I will make up an answer. I’ll take the fact that you’ve dropped this glib line of pseudo-inquiry completely as an admission of, and apology for, your ignorance and wrongheadedness. But hey, you’ll always have “Acorn Socialist He wasn’t even born in America!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/355 "2009-09-11T13:42:24Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Which I agree with. As I saidnear the beginning of the thread, he should be censured. Yes, _we_ seem to be in agreement. Others appear to be having difficulty with the difference between ‘it would be nice if’, and ‘it is required that’. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/356 "2009-09-11T13:42:31Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Either send to congress or publicly ask for legislation to that effect. Done. Do I have to wait three years for muh money? Count me in as another one who didn’t know about the campaigns rule. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/357 "2009-09-11T13:51:21Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Yes, _we_ seem to be in agreement. Others appear to be having difficulty with the difference between ‘it would be nice if’, and ‘it is required that’. :rolleyes: Some seem to be having trouble with the concept that his political stance on UHC has _absolutely nothing_ to do with his apology. It’s not even a ‘would be nice’. It’s completely unconnected. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/358 "2009-09-11T14:18:21Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > :rolleyes: Some seem to be having trouble with the concept that his political stance on UHC has _absolutely nothing_ to do with his apology. It’s not even a ‘would be nice’. It’s completely unconnected. So he should invade Iraq as a way of making amends for trying to fuck up Obama’s health care speech? You’re a smart one today, **Frank**. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/359 "2009-09-11T14:33:11Z")
> [@legalsnugs](#): > > Is there any way to find out how much Joe Wilson has raised in contributions from his supporters since the speech? My google-fu is too weak to find anything. Thanks. [CNN](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/11/defiant-wilson-raises-more-than-200000-after-outburst/) reports over $200,000. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/360 "2009-09-11T14:40:51Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > [CNN](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/11/defiant-wilson-raises-more-than-200000-after-outburst/) reports over $200,000. From your link: > [@](#): > > “On these issues, I will not be muzzled, I will speak up and speak loudly against this risky plan,” Wilson said in a YouTube video released Thursday evening. “The supporters of the government takeover of health care and the liberals who want to give health care to illegals are using my opposition as an excuse to distract from the critical questions being raised about this poorly conceived plan.” So, does that mean he takes back his apology? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496.md?page=19)