# Who heckled Obama during his address to Congress?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496 "2009-09-10T00:52:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/381 "2009-09-11T18:17:51Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Only if it was a wooden shoe.

And only if you hit the target square between his beady eyes.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/382 "2009-09-11T18:20:27Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Only if it was a wooden shoe.

I see what you did there.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/383 "2009-09-11T18:22:36Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> I don’t think Wilson’s outburst was planned. I do think he is in a culture of conservatives who find no problem shouting people down. Beck and Rush never sit politely while the evil liberal speaks. They scream and cut them off. They showed the same sensitivity in town halls. Apparently manners are a sign of weakness.

And you will never, _ever_ find liberals doing that. No, Sir, not ever.

Is this selective memory, I wonder, or a case of seeing what you want to see?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/384 "2009-09-11T18:28:03Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> And you will never, _ever_ find liberals doing that. No, Sir, not ever.
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> Is this selective memory, I wonder, or a case of seeing what you want to see?

Not when the president is talking at least.

There are loud and stupid Democrats too. But the Republicans are run by the loud and stupid.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/385 "2009-09-11T18:28:35Z")

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Hi. “Nuh uh no you are” is not a valid defense.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/386 "2009-09-11T18:29:53Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> And you will never, _ever_ find liberals doing that. No, Sir, not ever.
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> Is this selective memory, I wonder, or a case of seeing what you want to see?

[citation required]

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/387 "2009-09-11T18:38:44Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> i don’t think wilson’s outburst was planned. I do think he is in a culture of conservatives who find no problem shouting people down. Beck and rush never sit politely while the evil liberal speaks. They—

\*Nuh Uh it’s you!

You do that! YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU!  
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/388 "2009-09-11T18:52:41Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> And you will never, _ever_ find liberals doing that. No, Sir, not ever.
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> Is this selective memory, I wonder, or a case of seeing what you want to see?

In texting, that’s just “no u”. But you don’t often see that stated by somebody past middle school age.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/389 "2009-09-11T20:30:51Z")

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I thought all of the republicans behavior during the address was pretty pathetic. The whole “do we clap for this point?” element of addresses is quite annoying. Whenever there was an applause moment you could see on the republicans’ faces looks of “wait, what did he say? Do I agree with that? Will it look bad if I clap?”

If they ever did decide to clap, it was always a second or two after everybody else.

Some of the points they didn’t clap to were kind of surprising. Things like “Americans not dying is good.”

And the way they all went bonkers over the thing about malpractice liability limits was just sad. It’s like their _one_ thing. Affordable healthcare for everybody? Meh. No limits on coverage? Whatever. Not having to worry about malpractice lawsuits? WOOOT OMG BEST IDEA EVER THIS WILL SAVE AMERICA!!!

It is a good idea, but the ferverence with which they cling to the idea is ridiculous. Don’t studies show that limiting malpractice layouts would save like 0.5% of the cost of healthcare? I’m sure the insurance companies would love it if they didn’t have to keep paying out multi-milion dollar payouts when their doctors screw up, though. But wont the republicans think of the lawyers?? I guess the insurance lobby trumps the lawyer lobby.

The whole attitude around this healthcare thing makes me want to throw up forever.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/390 "2009-09-11T20:34:15Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> It is a good idea, but the ferverence with which they cling to the idea is ridiculous. Don’t studies show that limiting malpractice layouts would save like 0.5% of the cost of healthcare? I’m sure the insurance companies would love it if they didn’t have to keep paying out multi-milion dollar payouts when their doctors screw up, though. But wont the republicans think of the lawyers?? I guess the insurance lobby trumps the lawyer lobby.

Tin-foil hat time: They cling to this one issue, refuse to support anything else, and when the malpractice limits are all that make it through, turn around and attack Obama for not saving enough money.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/391 "2009-09-11T20:38:41Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Tin-foil hat time: They cling to this one issue, refuse to support anything else, and when the malpractice limits are all that make it through, turn around and attack Obama for not saving enough money.

I think the whole plan is to just relentlessly try to stop any kind of reform from passing, so when the mid-terms come around they can all say, “Look, the democrats couldn’t even get healthcare passed! Re-elect us!”

Because Americans’ healthcare is a political bargaining chip.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/392 "2009-09-11T20:56:25Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> The whole “do we clap for this point?” element of addresses is quite annoying. Whenever there was an applause moment you could see on the republicans’ faces looks of “wait, what did he say? Do I agree with that? Will it look bad if I clap?”

This wasn’t officially one, but you’ll see that silly shit in every single damn State of the Union address.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/393 "2009-09-11T23:10:20Z")

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[Some voters still have sense - “You Lie!” Wilson now trails challenger](http://www.americablog.com/2009/09/some-voters-still-have-sense-you-lie.html)

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> From Public Policy Polling
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> Republican Congressman Joe Wilson trails challenger Rob Miller 44-43 in the wake of his shouting out ‘you lie’ during President Obama’s speech to Congress on Wednesday night. Wilson defeated Miller 54-46 in the 2008 election.
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> 62% of voters in his district say they disapprove of Wilson’s actions while just 29% think they were ok.

[Democrats Give Wilson Ultimatum: Apology or Punishment](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/11/democrats-wilson-ultimatum-apology-punishment/)

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> House Democratic leaders announced Friday they will discipline Republican Rep. Joe Wilson next week if he does not apologize on the floor of the House for yelling “You lie” at President Obama during Wednesday’s joint address to Congress.
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> Democrats say they do not know what the sanction will be, but it is doubtful it will be censure. Censure in the House is a type of reprimand. Another alternative is an official rebuke.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/394 "2009-09-12T00:54:04Z")

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Miller to Wilson: Thanks a million!

Yep, Wilson’s outburst has caused his opponent to make over a million and counting in campaign donations. Ouch.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/395 "2009-09-12T02:18:06Z")

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And Wilson will get money from the repubs who place big value on being ill- mannered and and loud. Palin will probably give him a big kiss.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/396 "2009-09-12T02:23:12Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> I think the whole plan is to just relentlessly try to stop any kind of reform from passing, so when the mid-terms come around they can all say, “Look, the democrats couldn’t even get healthcare passed! Re-elect us!”
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> Because Americans’ healthcare is a political bargaining chip.

It is bigger than that. If he gets a working system in place ,the repubs will have nothing to run on. This is an issue the repubs were pushing for a long time. They knew it had to be fixed. But, they always kowtow to big business, even when the country is at risk. They did not have the guts to stand up to the healthcare and pharm industries. They still do not.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/397 "2009-09-12T03:51:44Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> McCain’s reputation for integrity took a hit when he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, but this proves that he’s a true gentleman.

I thought the choice of Palin was a Hail Mary and one day he will probably admit it too. He lost his integrity when he decided to make nice with the Pat Robertsons and Grover Norquists of the Republican party in order to get the “base” to vote for him.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/398 "2009-09-12T04:05:50Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> “Speaking truth to power” requires, first, that what you speak be true.
> 
> **Bricker** , you are correct. Please amend my comments to: “The overwhelming majority of Republicans have no sense of decorum, fair play, or patriotism.” Examples proving this are easy to find.
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> I pity the handful of decent conservatives like yourself who apparently thought they were attending a black-tie cocktail party and are surprised to find themselves in the middle of a drunken brawl.
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> Though, frankly. I see your only honorable role at this time to be that of Joseph Welch.

The Republican party has jumped the shark and Bricker is still a fan because he liked some of the earlier episodes.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/399 "2009-09-12T11:08:16Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> The Republican party has jumped the shark and Bricker is still a fan because he liked some of the earlier episodes.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-heckled-obama-during-his-address-to-congress/509496/400 "2009-09-12T11:42:35Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Miller to Wilson: Thanks a million!
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> Yep, Wilson’s outburst has caused his opponent to make over a million and counting in campaign donations. Ouch.

Wilson is doing just fine, thank you very much.

[http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/09/scs\_wilson\_rakes\_in\_750000\_in.html](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/09/scs_wilson_rakes_in_750000_in.html)

“_Just as liberals have poured cash into the campaign of Rob Miller, who lost to Wilson by almost eight percentage points in 2008, conservatives are_\* pouring contributions into Wilson’s campaign at an astonishing rate\*\*\*.”

“Republicans expect Wilson to also top more than **$1 million by Monday** because of the immense publicity he’s received in the last 48 hours.”

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