# Who, here is voting for Trump? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 6, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989 "2016-08-06T22:02:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/41 "2016-08-08T01:03:14Z")
They say this is [old](http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2016/08/07/cnns-brian-stelter-puts-the-hillary-stairs-photo-in-context/)news. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/42 "2016-08-08T01:08:05Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So you take as a given that Clinton has “serious health issues”? If not, I’m not 100% sure what kind of reasoning you want or are expecting. > > B No, but it’s a decent reason and a concern. She is no spring chicken and the campaign has been tough on her. I doubt if there’s anything _that_ serious, but I accept this as a valid concern. But not as a reason to vote for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/43 "2016-08-08T01:26:09Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I’ll vote for him. > > He wasn’t my first choice. Nor my second, nor my third. But the bottom line is this: on his worst day, Trump will still be better than Hillary on her best day. We need some sort of Smilie for an admiration of bravery. And FWIW I admire you saying what you feel. ---
**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/44 "2016-08-08T01:44:58Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Why do you say it appears she is taking l-dopa ? I saw this from America’s favorite pharmaceutical exec:D > [@](#): > > Martin Shkreli – Verified account ?@MartinShkreli > I’m dead serious. I reviewed a number of videos and I think @HillaryClinton has early onset Parkinson’s Disease. It appears she takes L-dopa > 12:46 PM - 7 Aug 2016 ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/45 "2016-08-08T02:14:50Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I’ll vote for him. > > He wasn’t my first choice. Nor my second, nor my third. But the bottom line is this: on his worst day, Trump will still be better than Hillary on her best day. Y’know, **Clothy** , you and I don’t agree on anything politically, and have been rather insulting to each other in The Pit, but I will say this for you: I have to admire your ability to stick to your guns, even in the face of a seemingly never-ending stream or snark and insults. I don’t agree with your views on anything that I can think of right this second, but I have to respect your ability to swim upstream, and to announce something on this board that you know is an unpopular sentiment. It takes spunk. I hate spunk. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/46 "2016-08-08T02:41:45Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > I saw this from America’s favorite pharmaceutical exec:D You do know that he is a hedge fund manager with utterly zero knowledge of medicine, right? He has a high school interest in chemistry that has led him to spend most of his business life playing with pharmaceutical companies, but he has less knowledge of anything medical than a C- student LPN. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/47 "2016-08-08T02:43:44Z")
> [@holmes](#): > > They say this is [old](http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2016/08/07/cnns-brian-stelter-puts-the-hillary-stairs-photo-in-context/)news. So she’s a Dalek? Makes sense to me… She must be the older classic Dr. Who model Dalek that cannot negotiate stairs ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/48 "2016-08-08T02:43:44Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > … > It takes spunk. I hate spunk. “You’ve got spunk. I hate spunk.” Hehe. Lou Grant to Mary Richards on her first day of work at WJM. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/49 "2016-08-08T09:54:25Z")
I would vote for Trump over Clinton on the off chance that he is just trolling the Republicans and if elected would return to his historical moderate political views. But considering he seems to be doubling down with his selection of a TeaBag VP and going more extreme I’m leaning Johnson right now or Karen Weaver as a protest write-in vote. ETA: Suppose tomorrow Trump said that he said all that to get nominated and started to campaign as rational candidate, would he win in a landslide or would it cost him too many right-wing votes? ---
**Author:** ![Aro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Aro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aro)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/50 "2016-08-08T10:13:05Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Well, let’s see. I don’t recall Trump putting top secret information on an unsecure server and letting the whole world look at it, then lying to everyone about it. But Hillary did. If we look at nothing else, that one action alone tells me that she is too frickin’ incompetent to be President. > > What else? I don’t recall Trump establishing a “foundation” to accept bribes from foreign powers in return for political favors. But Hillary did. Another massive chunk of confidence lost. > > I don’t recall Trump getting a US ambassador and three security people killed, and then lying to the people about it. But Hillary did. > > And the list goes on. It just astounds the living hell out of me that people think she is worthy of being President. She should be serving time in prison, not running for office. But liberals will line up to vote for her because you all think the sun shines out of her butt. **Clothahump** , a question if I may; All of those are reasons you list, legitimate or not, are why you would never choose to vote \*\*\*for \*\*\*Hilary Clinton. But the question asked was who is voting \*\*\*for \*\*\*Trump. Do you have \*positive \*reasons to vote \*for \*Trump? Do his positions resonate with you? Do you think he is a strong, clear, consistent, engaged, interested and responsible enough for the role of World Leader and Commander-in-Chief, or is simply being \*‘not Hilary’ \*considered a good enough reason for you? I’m interested in understanding the good things about Trump that others see; thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/51 "2016-08-08T10:31:35Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > ETA: Suppose tomorrow Trump said that he said all that to get nominated and started to campaign as rational candidate, would he win in a landslide or would it cost him too many right-wing votes? Well, he’d have to issue a comprehensive apology for every nasty, idiotic, racist, misogynistic, ableist, and otherwise bigoted thing he’s said just in the past fourteen months or so. It wouldn’t be a landslide, either; it might be a horse race, and it might actually be close, but he’d lose a lot of conservative votes and he’d mainly pick up independent votes, which wouldn’t help him in winning over the solid blue states on the map. He also has no campaign apparatus and he has a campaign staff composed of people who joined and stuck with him throughout the Old Trump period, so he might lose them if he changed tack that comprehensively. He’d have a serious uphill battle, and there’s no indication he’d be capable of it even if he were entirely sane and moderate. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/52 "2016-08-08T12:07:33Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > My cousin is voting for Trump. Her reason, “Hillary wants to take my guns.” She’s not a member as I’m sure she’d find the registration process **fart oo** demanding. [my bold] Best typo of the month. ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/53 "2016-08-08T12:15:27Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I don’t recall Trump getting a US ambassador and three security people killed, and then lying to the people about it. But Hillary did. As much as I vehemently disagree with the severity/incompetence angle that Trump supporters take against Hillary, at least I understand it. However the whole Benghazi situation really aggravates me because the GOP/Trump Supporters completely fail to acknowledge, admit, deny or flat out are uneducated on the following FACT: Prior to Benghazi there we **20 embassy attacks and 66 deaths** under Bush! Where is the unbiased outrage?! For the record I do not blame Bush, Powell or Rice 100 percent for those attacks, yet somehow Hillary is hammered on this. The GOP is really reaching on this one and hoping for short memories of the voting public. ---
**Author:** ![GunnarFranz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/da6949/32.png) [@GunnarFranz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GunnarFranz)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/54 "2016-08-08T12:30:45Z")
I will probably hold my nose and do the unthinkable. I cannot say for sure as it will come down to whether or not I’ll feel worse about throwing away my vote on Johnson or potentially helping to end the Republican party. Meh. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/55 "2016-08-08T12:53:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No, there’s no evidence Hillary put top secret information on an unsecure server, much less letting the whole world look at it. Denial is apparently more than a river in Egypt to you. [QUOTE=FBI Director Comey] From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/56 "2016-08-08T13:04:47Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Denial is apparently more than a river in Egypt to you. What about your denial about all the falsehoods about “letting the whole world look”, and “getting a US ambassador and three security people killed”, and “establishing a “foundation” to accept bribes from foreign powers in return for political favors”, that you put forward? Also, are you interested in discussion, or just bomb-throwing? I’ve tried to engage you in actual reasonable and factual discussion before, but I’ve never succeeded. If this will be just another **Clothahump** fact-free bomb throwing session, then no need to continue; I’ve seen it before. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/57 "2016-08-08T13:20:13Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > I’ll vote for Trump. > > Hillary has serious health issues. Perhaps the onset of Parkinsons. > > It appears that she takes L-DOPA. > > The Side effects of L-DOPA include confusion and disturbed respiration. > > Huma Abedin said she’s often confused. Hell, she even confused Trump with her husband. > She has coughing fits as well. > > Have you seen Drudge tonight? She can’t even negotiate stairs without help. > > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpSc3XmWEAQR-TA.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpSc3XmWEAQR-TA.jpg) You’re using Drudge as a cite? Please tell me I’m getting wooshed. If Drudge reported the sun would rise in the east I would start expecting to get hit by a nova. > [@DrDeth](#): > > No, but it’s a decent reason and a concern. She is no spring chicken and the campaign has been tough on her. I doubt if there’s anything _that_ serious, but I accept this as a valid concern. > > But not as a reason to vote for Trump. She is no sodding chicken, but Trump is even older than her. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/58 "2016-08-08T13:59:23Z")
What if Trump gets elected then, also being older, suffers a similar illness and needs be replaced? You want his VP in charge? At least if Hilary drops the new President isn’t sworn to overturn Roe vs Wade! I’d take my chances with Hilary, I think! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/59 "2016-08-08T14:04:25Z")
> [@chargerrich](#): > > As much as I vehemently disagree with the severity/incompetence angle that Trump supporters take against Hillary, at least I understand it. However the whole Benghazi situation really aggravates me because the GOP/Trump Supporters completely fail to acknowledge, admit, deny or flat out are uneducated on the following FACT: > > Prior to Benghazi there we **20 embassy attacks and 66 deaths** under Bush! Where is the unbiased outrage?! > > For the record I do not blame Bush, Powell or Rice 100 percent for those attacks, yet somehow Hillary is hammered on this. The GOP is really reaching on this one and hoping for short memories of the voting public. There’s also the slight fact that military ROE’s are not designed by, nor initiated by, the Secretary of State’s office. But other than the fact that the SoS is not in the chain of military command that would cause orders to be given or withdrawn, yeah, she’s responsible. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![mtomm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@mtomm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mtomm)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/60 "2016-08-08T17:05:39Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > There’s also the slight fact that military ROE’s are not designed by, nor initiated by, the Secretary of State’s office. But other than the fact that the SoS is not in the chain of military command that would cause orders to be given or withdrawn, yeah, she’s responsible. :rolleyes: Even Fox News had copped to the fact that no one, even Hillary, was responsible. [No stand down, no missteps.](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/21/no-stand-down-order-or-military-missteps-in-benghazi-attack-gop-controlled.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989.md?page=4)