# Who, here is voting for Trump? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 6, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989 "2016-08-06T22:02:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/81 "2016-08-08T23:08:02Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > And hundreds of fewer successful businesses and thousands of fewer employees whose jobs she actually created. Clinton and Trump are running for President of the United States not Chairman of the Board. In a contest for a political position, doesn’t Clinton’s political experience count for more than Trump’s business experience? You don’t hire the world’s best lawyer to perform surgery on you. You look for somebody who’s got medical experience. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/82 "2016-08-08T23:10:57Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Seriously? Sticking by serial philanderer Bill counts as a good thing? I realize divorces have become a normal thing in American society. But are you really condemning somebody for not getting divorced? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/83 "2016-08-08T23:11:08Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > And hundreds of fewer successful businesses and thousands of fewer employees whose jobs she actually created. And how many were lost to the bankruptcies and other failures? He also recently fired everyone at one of his main resorts so he could bring in foreign workers on the H1-B program. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/84 "2016-08-08T23:19:39Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > People always say they are tired of government as usual, career politicians, same old same old. Those people are arguably not using their heads. Governing the richest, most militarily powerful, most culturally dominant civilization in history is NOT a job for amateurs. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/85 "2016-08-08T23:21:16Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I’m voting for Trump. I would have preferred Walker or Cruz, but Trump is my third choice. And the ONLY choice when compared to Obama 3.0 aka Hillary. > > Things in his favor? He actually has the balls to say “America First” and “Illegal immigration is bad” and “Government is too big.” Can you imagine O or H saying any of those things? Plus his stated litmus tests for SCOTUS candidates agrees with me. He may well be lying and misrepresenting what he will do. But at least he is TRYING to look like a candidate I can get behind. Hillary says the exact opposite of everything I want to see happen in our government. On some level, I can actually relate to this. Trump probably represents your interests. You want lower taxes and regulations – I get that. At least it’s not some Bernie Bro who’s voting just to spite Hillary, or someone voting against their own interests. > [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > People always say they are tired of government as usual, career politicians, same old same old. Yet when someone arises who actually breaks that mold? All they can do is complain. Frankly, I’m even more tired of voters as usual - voters who fall for the same old identity politics. I’m tired of voters complain about the budget and cheer as their guy cuts taxes while fighting two wars but then turns around and complains about the budget when someone inherits a financial crisis and decreased tax revenues. Government as usual occurs because of voting as usual. Let’s stop voting as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/86 "2016-08-08T23:27:20Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Those people are arguably not using their heads. Governing the richest, most militarily powerful, most culturally dominant civilization in history is NOT a job for amateurs. I would agree with you if I knew that you voted against Obama in 2008. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/87 "2016-08-08T23:28:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …Frankly, I’m even more tired of voters as usual - voters who fall for the same old identity politics. I’m tired of voters complain about the budget and cheer as their guy cuts taxes while fighting two wars but then turns around and complains about the budget when someone inherits a financial crisis and decreased tax revenues. Government as usual occurs because of voting as usual. Let’s stop voting as usual. I completely agree with this. Voting for someone who has NOT been in government continuously since the 1980s would be a good start. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/88 "2016-08-08T23:31:14Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I would agree with you if I knew that you voted against Obama in 2008. The guy who got Bin Laden and ended a disastrous war? The guy who _hasn’t_ had thousands of Americans killed on his watch? Is that the guy you’re talking about? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/89 "2016-08-08T23:37:16Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I would agree with you if I knew that you voted against Obama in 2008. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The guy who got Bin Laden and ended a disastrous war? The guy who _hasn’t_ had thousands of Americans killed on his watch? Is that the guy you’re talking about? What he appears to be talking about is that he’s characterizing 2008 Obama an an amateur. And he’s wrong, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/90 "2016-08-08T23:52:55Z")
I think Hillary is one of the worst main candidates on either side for the past 50 years, but she has had incredible luck in that Trump is the worst candidate of the past 50 years(perhaps, 100 years). I can not vote Trump, though I may have bitten a bullet and voted some other Republican candidates that didn’t get the bid. Not Cruz, either. But maybe one of the other guys. Very depressing election, but Trump is far too deplorable to ever, ever vote for. I wish the Dem’s had someone like John Kerry. He would have been a way better option. > [@Clothahump](#): > > I’ll vote for him. > > He wasn’t my first choice. Nor my second, nor my third. But the bottom line is this: on his worst day, Trump will still be better than Hillary on her best day. I can’t stand Hillary, but comparing Trump to Hillary is like the difference between bad tasting water and poisoned water. Thanks for admitting you are voting for him, though. It takes guts. > [@GulfTiger](#): > > I’ll vote for Trump. > > Hillary has serious health issues. Perhaps the onset of Parkinsons. > > It appears that she takes L-DOPA. > > The Side effects of L-DOPA include confusion and disturbed respiration. > > Huma Abedin said she’s often confused. Hell, she even confused Trump with her husband. > She has coughing fits as well. > > Have you seen Drudge tonight? She can’t even negotiate stairs without help. > > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpSc3XmWEAQR-TA.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpSc3XmWEAQR-TA.jpg) This reeks of conspiracy theory stuff. She’s a bad candidate, but seems healthy enough. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/91 "2016-08-09T00:28:20Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What he appears to be talking about is that he’s characterizing 2008 Obama an an amateur. > > And he’s wrong, of course. In 2008, Obama had been a senator for like 10 minutes. He had not done \*any \*of the things you are now giving him credit for. Hell, Trump \*owns \*more Senators than Obama has ever been. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/92 "2016-08-09T00:39:27Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > In 2008, Obama had been a senator for like 10 minutes. He had not done \*any \*of the things you are now giving him credit for. Hell, Trump \*owns \*more Senators than Obama has ever been. His term started in 2005. You actually approve of bribery? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/93 "2016-08-09T00:41:15Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Hell, Trump \*owns \*more Senators than Obama has ever been. So why don’t you consider him as corrupt as any career politician if this is true? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/94 "2016-08-09T01:04:14Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > You really should compare Trump’s list of failures to his much, much longer list of successes if you want to present a fair argument. Not really. Trump has pretty much claimed that he is always successful. In fact, he is generally good at real estate deals. That, however, is hardly the claim that was made for him on this thread and noting that he is not particularly honest, (making his “Lying Hilary” claim ironic), his frequent failures in everything outside real estate development, and his false claims regarding projects such as his fraudulent Trump University, simply listing his failures refutes the claim put forth, even if he has had success in the one thing that he actually knows how to do, (like importing undocumented workers to build his buildings on the cheap). ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/95 "2016-08-09T01:10:15Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Seriously? Sticking by serial philanderer Bill counts as a good thing? This is hysterical. The Religious Right has often told women to suck it up and remain in bad marriages because what God has put together, no man should sunder. Yet, when faced with a woman who actually did not jump into divorce, the wife is pilloried for doing what the Religious Right demands of every woman who has been in a bad relationship. Now, you may not be among those on the Religious Right who holds those views, but it is still amusing to see Ms. Clinton’s opponents trying to demean her for doing what her religious beliefs dictate. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/96 "2016-08-09T01:18:17Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > In 2008, Obama had been a senator for like 10 minutes. He had not done \*any \*of the things you are now giving him credit for. Hell, Trump \*owns \*more Senators than Obama has ever been. Obama had more experience in 2008 than Trump has now. But you’re saying Obama’s lack of experience disqualifies him to be President. How come a greater lack doesn’t disqualify Trump? Maybe you should just tell people you’re voting for Trump because he’s a Gemini. That way, people would understand you’re not interested in rational evidence and you’d get less arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/97 "2016-08-09T01:46:47Z")
Trump first wafted into my consciousness when he ordered the Art Deco limestone bas-reliefs on the Fifth Avenue Bonwit Teller building (now the site of Trump Tower) to be jackhammered into gravel rather than cough up $30 grand to have them rescued and taken to the Metropolitan Museum. HARDLY the decision of a Gemini! A Virgo, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/98 "2016-08-09T01:55:12Z")
The classic Virgo will prefer which ever solution was most tidy. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/99 "2016-08-09T02:05:54Z")
Voting for Trump based upon his businesses success apparently involves ignoring his business record. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/100 "2016-08-09T02:40:27Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I completely agree with this. Voting for someone who has NOT been in government continuously since the 1980s would be a good start. No, voting for the democratic party for 16 consecutive years, like we did from 1932 to 1948…that would be a good start. We tried it the republican way. We really did. It didn’t work. And a divided, gridlocked government absolutely doesn’t work. So we know what the only true choice is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989.md?page=6)