# Who, here is voting for Trump?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 6, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989 "2016-08-06T22:02:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/121 "2016-08-10T23:50:21Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> He’s a pretty successful con artist though.

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> The best.

The GREATEST.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/122 "2016-08-11T00:29:10Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Trumps problem is that the things he says that make sense like the US and Russia should be friends or Fuck China gets lost in the other 98% of things he says.

Well, the Russia stuff Trump has said is much different than the kinds of things that (naively) Obama said around 2008 and 2012 about resetting relations with the hope of having more friendly ties. At the same time as Trump has praised Putin as a great and effective leader, he has also called NATO obsolete and said he would impose conditions on his administration’s compliance with NATO treaty obligations if a NATO member were attacked. While some conservatives have misguidedly praised Putin in the recent past as being an effective leader, I don’t think most Republican congresspeople or voters would support any withdrawal from NATO or abandonment of NATO allies.

Forget about Obama’s red lines issue with Syria and the use of chemical weapons, U.S. credibility is going to be zero if every treaty and security commitment is suddenly in question based on a new reassessment about whether it has an immediate or sufficient benefit for the U.S. to Trump’s satisfaction.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/123 "2016-08-17T05:18:57Z")

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> [@thelmalou](#):
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> the greatest.

BEAUTIFULESt!

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**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/124 "2016-09-13T00:29:33Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> This reeks of conspiracy theory stuff. She’s a bad candidate, but seems healthy enough.

It may take several more months but the pieces are coming together.

This video was made before her latest episode and this doctor nails it with Pneumonia link before Hillary’s team admitted that.

[Doctor explains Hillary likely has Parkinsons](https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/125 "2016-09-13T00:43:20Z")

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> [@GulfTiger](#):
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> It may take several more months but the pieces are coming together.
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> This video was made before her latest episode and this doctor nails it with Pneumonia link before Hillary’s team admitted that.
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> [Doctor explains Hillary likely has Parkinsons](https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM)

Ah, so he’s examined her personally? Run tests?

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**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/126 "2016-09-13T01:35:52Z")

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If you have viewed his presentation, he admits that he has not.

He offers a medical theory, and it makes a lot of sense.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/127 "2016-09-13T02:21:52Z")

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No, really. It does not. At all. Not at all.

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**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/128 "2016-09-13T02:29:52Z")

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There is more than that.

[Here’s another](https://youtu.be/HoBL7fqOVcQ)

[and another](https://youtu.be/2RATKRbSWV8)

I heard a good interview with a doctor today who tied it all to Parkinsons as well.

Look for this to grow legs.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/129 "2016-09-13T02:35:02Z")

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Cheeze Louise, where do you _get_ this shit? I mean, you looked at that first one and said to yourself, Well, this looks legit!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/130 "2016-09-13T02:37:43Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Cheeze Louise, where do you _get_ this shit? I mean, you looked at that first one and said to yourself, Well, this looks legit!

When you’re this terrified of losing “your” country, you cling to the most desperate of hopes.

Oh and slap fight.

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**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/131 "2016-09-13T02:38:01Z")

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Time will tell. I’ll come back to either eat crow or dish it out.

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**Author:** ![Sputnikkk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Sputnikkk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sputnikkk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/132 "2016-09-13T04:54:50Z")

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I have dark bad days some times where I feel completely nihilistic, and hate the world and wish someone would drop a bomb on everyone, and that’s when a little voice comes into my head and says Vote for Trump!

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**Author:** ![Sputnikkk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Sputnikkk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sputnikkk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/133 "2016-09-13T05:06:17Z")

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> [@GulfTiger](#):
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> There is more than that.
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> [Here’s another](https://youtu.be/HoBL7fqOVcQ)
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> [and another](https://youtu.be/2RATKRbSWV8)
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> I heard a good interview with a doctor today who tied it all to Parkinsons as well.
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> Look for this to grow legs.

Gulf Tiger, I hope you don’t take these conspiracy theory people on the internet, pointing to these examples of Parkinson’s and applying it to Hillary, seriously. You know that If you where to take hours and hours of video of any human, and fish through it, and edit it down to their smaller movements and reactions, you could easily make anyone look like they have neurological problems. That’s what these people on the internet are doing with Hillary. You shouldn’t take them seriously- its all fakery.

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/134 "2016-09-13T13:01:59Z")

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> [@ganthet](#):
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> Well, the Russia stuff Trump has said is much different than the kinds of things that (naively) Obama said around 2008 and 2012 about resetting relations with the hope of having more friendly ties. At the same time as Trump has praised Putin as a great and effective leader, he has also called NATO obsolete and said he would impose conditions on his administration’s compliance with NATO treaty obligations if a NATO member were attacked. While some conservatives have misguidedly praised Putin in the recent past as being an effective leader, I don’t think most Republican congresspeople or voters would support any withdrawal from NATO or abandonment of NATO allies.
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> Forget about Obama’s red lines issue with Syria and the use of chemical weapons, U.S. credibility is going to be zero if every treaty and security commitment is suddenly in question based on a new reassessment about whether it has an immediate or sufficient benefit for the U.S. to Trump’s satisfaction.

You can’t get more ‘principled conservative’ (or I guess ‘principled reactionary’) than the Constitution Party, and they support withdrawal from NATO (and the UN) as well, so clearly these are ideas that have some traction among _some_ people on the right (as well as some on the left).

If something is a bad idea (and I think NATO was always a bad idea, even in its origins) there is zero virtue in holding steadfastly to it for the sake of ‘credibility’, just like if your friend or family member commits a crime, there’s no virtue in standing by them for the sake of loyalty. Honoring treaties and promises has a place, but sometimes there are things that are more important.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/135 "2016-09-13T16:04:21Z")

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If you plan on voting for Trump, [do you already belong to whatever religion he supposedly believes in, or do you plan on immediately converting?](http://addictinginfo.org/2016/09/13/scary-trump-just-declared-war-on-multiple-religions/)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/136 "2016-09-13T16:53:42Z")

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Church of Moloch, sacred temple of the Dollar Almighty?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/137 "2016-09-13T16:56:01Z")

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> [@GulfTiger](#):
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> If you have viewed his presentation, he admits that he has not.
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> He offers a medical theory, and it makes a lot of sense.

Just out of curiousity do you take claims by psychistarists that Trump has Narcissistic personality disorder, and is likely also a sociopath as equally convincing? Because to tell you the truth I’d rather have a president with Parkinson’s disease than one that is clinically insane, but that’s just me.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/138 "2016-09-13T17:54:03Z")

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> [@GulfTiger](#):
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> Time will tell. I’ll come back to either eat crow or dish it out.

Why would one year of Hillary Clinton and three years of Tim Kaine be worse than four years of Donald Trump?

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**Author:** ![Whitney\_Harper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@Whitney\_Harper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whitney_Harper)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/139 "2016-09-14T14:37:34Z")

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I plan to vote for Trump as I feel he is the more qualified of the two. I believe he will work hard for the country. Frankly, if Hillary gets elected, I really don’t want to relive the past and hear about all of Bill’s escapades and what he is up to, etc. Enough is enough.

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-is-voting-for-trump/761989/140 "2016-09-14T14:43:41Z")

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After a long time of thought and research, I too have decided to vote for Trump. This is a new decision and I am not happy about it. I just don’t trust Hillary. I know Trump is gonna be a mess, but that might be the slap in the face the country needs to shape up. On the plus side I doubt he will mess with my guns.

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