# Who here loves "Babylon 5?"

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**Created:** [April 7, 2000, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088 "2000-04-07T16:39:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainWeasel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@BrainWeasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainWeasel)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2000, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/21 "2000-04-11T00:51:00Z")

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Anyone see G’Kar’s speech responding to “What is Truth, and what is God?” I used that in a theatre class as a monologue. Wore my tape thin trying to transcribe it.

## Good for SciFi for picking it up, but, for those of you asking about “Crusade,” I followed the birth and death of that puppy closely, and pretty much the only thing that stood in the way of Crusade getting a full five-season contract was that SciFi had already assigned its budget for the year, and had no room to snatch up a sequel. So TNT let it die.

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**Author:** ![JoeBlank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@JoeBlank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeBlank)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2000, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/22 "2000-04-11T11:57:00Z")

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I believe I mentioned this in another thread, but if you like B5 try Rising Stars, a finite comic book series written by JMS, on about issue 6 now, I believe it will go 24 issues. See:  
[http://members.xoom.com/\_XMCM/risingstarsr/index.htm](http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/risingstarsr/index.htm)

More superhero and less science fiction. Very well-written, a damn good read.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2000, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/23 "2000-04-11T16:55:00Z")

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> Originally posted by **chillas** :
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> If season 5 is that bad, I can’t wait to see what the rest of the series is like.

Stay for the last 4 episodes, specifically the very last episode. I wept openly, and can’t watch it again until I’m emotionally ready.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/24 "2000-04-13T18:07:00Z")

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In the “Picard v. Kirk” thread, the topic of best captains overall came up (I posited Ivanova v. Janeway).

So, out of _all_ the sci-fi genres, which captain kicks butt? Which alien species? Which Number One? Which space ship? Which space station? Which planet?

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Elenfair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cc9497/32.png) [@Elenfair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elenfair)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/25 "2000-04-13T21:29:00Z")

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> So, out of all the sci-fi genres, which captain kicks butt? Which alien species? Which Number One? Which space ship? Which space station? Which planet?

Hmmm…

1. Sheridan is a kick-ass captain, but so was Adama (Man was Greene a HANDSOME devil…)

2. Aliens? The Pak’ma’ra.

3. Number one… got me. They’re all kinda lame, with the exception of Ivanova…

4. Gimme a white star any day. Or a vorlon ship. AND I kinda like the fact that the B5 earth ships weren’t all clean-cut, smooth-lined. They looked like… well… what we WOULD build 😉

5. Planet? Hmmm… it’s a toss-up between Minbar (gotta love all those glass buildings) and that “spa” planet Riker used to go to all the time… Risa?

And Esprix - tell all those other women who’ve already spoken you that they don’t stand a CHANCE against my iiiiirish charm. 😃

E.

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“Black holes were created when God divided by 0” ~Wally

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/26 "2000-04-13T22:14:00Z")

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I got hooked on B5 sometime in the second season. Sadly, after I left college, I lived for a couple years w/o TV, so I never got to find out how it all ended.

Last thing I remember is that the Shadows and the Vorlons went at it, kicking A\*\* and taking names, and Garibadi betrayed Sheridan to Earth-Nazi #1…

## There’s not much I missed about TV, but that was definately it! I sometimes think about looking into the videos…

“Banned by the Space Pope”

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/27 "2000-04-14T13:57:00Z")

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> Originally posted by **Elenfair** :
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> And Esprix - tell all those other women who’ve already spoken you that they don’t stand a CHANCE against my iiiiirish charm. 😃

Irish. Damn - I’m Scottish. Mixed marriages never work. 🙂

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/28 "2000-04-14T13:58:00Z")

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> Originally posted by **wevets** :
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> I got hooked on B5 sometime in the second season. Sadly, after I left college, I lived for a couple years w/o TV, so I never got to find out how it all ended.

Well, we could spoil it for ya, but suffice it to say that you should definitely at least ask someone who taped them all to borrow more. It’s worth it, if for nothing else Sheridan saying, “Get the hell out of our galaxy!”

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/29 "2000-04-14T23:03:00Z")

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Top 10 most powerful Star Ships in SF

1. Death Star
2. Vorlon Planet Killer
3. Space Battleship Yamato (Argo)
4. USS Defiant
5. USS Enterprise E
6. Minbari Whitestar
7. Shadow Vessel
8. USS Enterprise NCC-1701
9. Earth Alliance Super Destroyer
10. Cylon Basestar

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2000, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/30 "2000-04-15T00:38:00Z")

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How to tell the B5 fans from the B5 fakers: Mention “Capt. Bear-idan”. 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2000, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/31 "2000-04-17T16:17:00Z")

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Shoot that thing out an airlock, would ya? 🙂

Esprix

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2000, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/32 "2000-04-18T00:21:00Z")

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When that bear hit the window, I fell out of my chair laughing! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Narile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Narile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Narile)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2000, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/33 "2000-04-18T01:35:00Z")

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If you were at the Marcon a few years back (96 I think?) JMS was relateing the bear experience and saying something about the joy of holding the stake that was shoved up the bears rear, rotating it for the FX shot of it floating out there. And of course Peter Davids response…‘What kind of monster would space a teddy bear.’ and ‘The Strazyn, They would conquer the universe, but can never get the budget needed.’ All and all enjoyable.  
I’ve got a ‘Severed Dreams’ script from that Marcon. It was also the infamous Klingon Prisonor Lyta’s revenge Marcon.

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2000, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/34 "2000-04-18T02:41:00Z")

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JMS used to co-host _Hour 25_, a Los Angeles radio show devoted to SF and real science before B5. It was on every Friday night at 10 PM for two hours. His buddy Larry DiTillio was also co-host. (He was story editor for seasons 1 & 2 and wrote one or two episodes.) And Harlan Ellison was on a couple of times. (He was also once a host, but that was before I moved to L.A.)

When B5 was approved, The Group Mind (_Hour 25_ listeners) was the first to know. 😛

My favorite feature of _Hour 25_ was the listener call-in. I called EVERY Friday! But the show has been cut back to only one hour and they rarely do call-ins anymore. ☹

Oh, and one time I was at Dangerous Visions bookstore to see Harlan and Walter Koenig showed up, unannounced. (They’ve been friends since the 50’s when Walter was in an episode of _Alfred Hitchcock Presents_ written by Harlan. It starred James Caan. The episode was based on Harlan’s book, _Web of the City_, which was, in turn, based on Harlan’s real-life experience with a New York gang. Walter played a gang-member. Harlan thought Caan should’ve been a gangster and Walter should’ve played Harlan.)

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Feel free to correct me at any time. But don’t be surprised if I try to correct you.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2000, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-here-loves-babylon-5/16088/35 "2000-04-18T15:58:00Z")

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By the by, for those who don’t frequent it, there is a neat thread in Great Debates that poses which would win - the _Enterprise_ or an Imperial Star Destroyer. Check it out for some amusing stuff.

Esprix

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