# who invented anal sex? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 1, 2001, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934 "2001-11-01T16:36:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/21 "2001-11-01T20:57:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Vinnie Virginslayer \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by WordMan \* > > \*\* > > 5) Because it’s fun :D, homo, hetero, whatever - lotta nerve endings there… \*\* > > I take it you’ve never played catcher! \*\* Guilty as charged, **Vincent** , but I have pitched and, if done carefully and with lots of lube and communication, fun can be had… ---
**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/22 "2001-11-01T21:03:21Z")
Can any Kama Sutra scholars tell us if this particular “love lesson” is included? ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/23 "2001-11-01T21:05:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RealityChuck \* > **Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it** “Why, then, oh why can’t I?” ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/24 "2001-11-01T21:18:40Z")
Necessity is the mother of invention. Somebody must have _really_ needed it 😃 To quote from the era of trench warfare: In times of war, any hole will suffice. ---
**Author:** ![Cargogal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@Cargogal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cargogal)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/25 "2001-11-01T21:23:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by WordMan \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Vinnie Virginslayer \* > > \*\* > > > > I take it you’ve never played catcher! \*\* > > Guilty as charged, **Vincent** , but I have pitched and, if done carefully and with lots of lube and communication, fun can be had… \*\* Swing, battabatta - catchers like it, too! I still say it arose _ahem_ from pleasure rather than necessity. Hand is more of a necessity thing. ---
**Author:** ![seawitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@seawitch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seawitch)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/26 "2001-11-01T21:37:45Z")
**Vinnie** , I take it you _have_ played catcher? Just remember, lube is your friend. Anyway… > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > If I was a betting man, I’d say The Greeks. The Spartans did use it as a…bonding experience. I imagine you would protect your lover in a battle more valiently than you would protect a someone who was just a fellow soldier. You might be thinking of the **Sacred Band of Thebes.** Those were long-term homosexual relationships between two soldiers who were among the military elite of their day; it’s been used as a historical documentation of gay marriage. For that matter, I think Gilgamesh and Enkudu and a pretty close (wink wink) friendship. [Here’s](http://www.bibliomania.com/2/1/76/123/frameset.html) the Kama Sutra, though it limits homosexual references to oral sex. (See part 2, chapter 9.) And [here](http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/#ancmed) is a page with more links than you ever thought possible, sorted by era and civiliazation. The links are to historical research on gay and lesbian relationships, but nobody specified hetero anal sex. So there. And I did this at work, so a big _nyahh_ to **Sua** for refusing to search for “anal sex gorilla”. ---
**Author:** ![Dignan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@Dignan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dignan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2001, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/27 "2001-11-01T23:58:29Z")
How is this so hard to understand? We obviously aren’t going to get an exact person that “invented” it. Just think about it people, if there’s an opening in the body, some horny guy has probably tried to stick his dick in it at some point in time. The world has been around for a while. I think I read in one of Dan Savage’s (of _Savage Love_ or maybe I read it on the boards here) columns about some fetishists that get off on penetrating wounds. Don’t have a cite, because I’m lazy. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/28 "2001-11-02T00:33:28Z")
If I suggest that it was some lonely shepherd thousand of years ago, would I be b-a-a-d-d-d? ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/29 "2001-11-02T00:49:17Z")
Yes. Ewe wood. ---
**Author:** ![Cargogal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@Cargogal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cargogal)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/30 "2001-11-02T00:51:51Z")
You should be feeling sheepish for making a statement like that. ---
**Author:** ![Vinnie\_Virginslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/53a042/32.png) [@Vinnie\_Virginslayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vinnie_Virginslayer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/31 "2001-11-02T03:20:00Z")
Those comments get my goat! > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by seawitch \* > \*\ ***Vinnie** , I take it you _have_ played catcher? Just remember, lube is your friend. Anyway… > > \*\* Uh—er no. Let’s put it as cleanly as possible . . there’s been a few times when I was on the bowl . . and let’s just say I had my lunch bundled up in a ball about the size of a fucking football coming out. And I thought my asshole was going to rip apart at the seams. I’m going to myself “If it hurts THIS much going OUT . . why the FUCK woulkd anyone want to put something BACK IN!!!???” 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/32 "2001-11-02T04:43:15Z")
It was developed by a top research team. (sorry - I fought that pun for hours but lost) ---
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/33 "2001-11-02T06:33:43Z")
So I did a Google search and found [this](http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:Hh-HOXD2QVo:hometown.aol.com/GraceEACA/chapter2.html+Anal+sex,+history&hl=en&start=12) and this: Enema As an Erotic Art and Its History by David Barton-Jay ---
**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/34 "2001-11-02T08:50:48Z")
Entirely different, Vinnie ---
**Author:** ![Mr.White](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Mr.White](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.White)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/35 "2001-11-02T10:21:06Z")
In my many years and varied travels, I have learned that \*\*all[/b women like anal sex. Most of 'em just don’t realize it yet.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.White](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Mr.White](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.White)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/36 "2001-11-02T10:22:21Z")
:Must remember Preview is my friend. Preview is my friend. :Must remember ---
**Author:** ![RainbowDragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@RainbowDragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RainbowDragon)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/37 "2001-11-02T14:10:23Z")
I am willing to bet that the movie “Quest for Fire” wasn’t off the mark in answering the OP. In the movie cavemen engage in anal sex with cavewomen primarily because they simply didn’t know any better. A more developed tribe thought it was rather humorous. ---
**Author:** ![nth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/38 "2001-11-02T18:56:08Z")
i am surprised that no one quoted from the bible. it is documented in the bible. well not exactly but close enough. i think the passages in the bible happen prior to socrates as that is the earliest documented sources i have seen. probably cavemen did it. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/39 "2001-11-02T22:02:09Z")
**Rainbow** , I think you may be confusing anal sex with rear-entry, or “doggie-style” conventional sex. The import of the sex scenes was to show that the fire-less tribe not only leaned how to make fire, they also learned a kinky new sex practice. Well, that, and it was important to show Rae Dawn Chong doin’ the nasty. As far as precedent goes, I don’t have any biblical quotes, but I do have the greatest comedian of all time, [Aristophanes](http://classics.mit.edu/Aristophanes/clouds.pl.txt): JUST DISCOURSE Suppose your pupil, following your advice, gets the radish\* rammed up his ass and then is depilated with a hot coal; how are you going to prove to him that he is not a broad-arse\*\*? UNJUST DISCOURSE What’s the matter with being a broad-arse? JUST DISCOURSE Is there anything worse than that? UNJUST DISCOURSE Now what will you say, if I beat you even on this point? JUST DISCOURSE I should certainly have to be silent then. UNJUST DISCOURSE Well then, reply! Our advocates, what are they? JUST DISCOURSE Sons of broad-arses. UNJUST DISCOURSE Nothing is more true. And our tragic poets? JUST DISCOURSE Sons of broad-arses. UNJUST DISCOURSE Well said again. And our demagogues? JUST DISCOURSE Sons of broad-arses. UNJUST DISCOURSE You admit that you have spoken nonsense. And the spectators, what are they for the most part? Look at them. JUST DISCOURSE I am looking at them. UNJUST DISCOURSE Well! What do you see? JUST DISCOURSE By the gods, they are nearly all broad-arses. (pointing) See, this one I know to be such and that one and that other with the long hair. UNJUST DISCOURSE What have you to say, then? JUST DISCOURSE I am beaten. Debauchees! in the name of the gods, receive my cloak; I pass over to your ranks. (He goes back into the Thoughtery.) - “In Ancient Greek there was a verb “to radish”, which was the act of punishing an adulterer by inserting a large vegetable into the rectum. In “The Clouds”, Aristophanes sought laughs from the thought of adulterers getting punished in this manner. In Greek and Roman times, the radish was very different than the ones we grow today. The radish was grown for winter storage, and often weighed 50 to 100 lbs. each. It was eaten cooked or raw and seasoned with honey and vinegar.” –[cite](http://www.obsse.com/feb01-3.html) \*\* “broad-arse,” as in “buttocks distended by a giant, stinging foreign object.” In retrospect, I suppose that ramming a giant radish up someone’s ass as punishment isn’t really sex. But who cares? Everyone needs to read more Aristophanes. ---
**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934/40 "2001-11-02T22:31:07Z")
It was the Assholians… unfortunately, they died out. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-invented-anal-sex/90934.md?page=3)