# Who is a member of a nation?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 29, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-a-member-of-a-nation/961919 "2022-03-29T16:53:16Z")\
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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I don’t think that’s clear at all. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’ve never considered French Canadians any more or less Canadian than anyone else.

Did you hear @Hari_Seldon? We’re the bad ones. We reject **everyone**. Do you really want us in your otherwise perfect nation? Or what about that post by @wolfpup:

> [@Have You Experienced Culture Shock Moving Within Your Own Country?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-culture-shock-moving-within-your-own-country/947268/91):
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> I remember when there was an international event of some kind in Montreal, and world leaders like the US president flew in, even as I kid I wondered how they were ever going to get these nonchalant laid-back yahoos to organize security. Such things just seemed so counter to their nature.

Yeah, bunch of nonchalant yahoos we are, in addition to smoking all the time (and also committing near-constant sexual harassment!) as other people in the thread claim. And that’s not even anywhere near @wolfpup’s worst post, I guess I just noticed it because that’s what I expect from the guy. (In fairness, I think even Justin Trudeau once told a German diplomat that we couldn’t expect Canadians to be great builders like the Germans because “lol the French 😛”. Albertans may have been offended by Trudeau saying he’d prefer Canada to be like Quebec than like Alberta, but what I say is, that guy sure loves his ethno-regional stereotypes.)

Also that whole thread about experiencing culture shock in one’s own country seems to have devolved into “I lived in the deplorable parts of the country. The people there were so deplorable.” Which is why I didn’t post in it, despite the fact that yes, I also have experienced culture shock in my country. I didn’t want it to be taken as “I have experienced culture shock because **they** are bad”.

So what is it, @Dr.Drake? What are we? Are we racists who sully an otherwise great country as @Hari_Seldon keeps reminding us? (Also not his first post about this.) Are we serial sexual harassers who smoke cheap cigarettes and drink cheap beer? What is the problem with me (us?) that I (we?) need to solve before we can be thought of as real Canadians? And also, how can I expect to be treated if I meet you in person?

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