# Who is a member of a nation?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 29, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-a-member-of-a-nation/961919 "2022-03-29T16:53:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-a-member-of-a-nation/961919/50 "2022-04-01T03:20:11Z")

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> [@Have You Experienced Culture Shock Moving Within Your Own Country?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-culture-shock-moving-within-your-own-country/947268/91):
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> > [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> > I don’t think that’s clear at all. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’ve never considered French Canadians any more or less Canadian than anyone else.
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> Did you hear @Hari_Seldon? We’re the bad ones. We reject **everyone**. Do you really want us in your otherwise perfect nation? Or what about that post by @wolfpup:
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> > [@Have You Experienced Culture Shock Moving Within Your Own Country?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-culture-shock-moving-within-your-own-country/947268/91):
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> > I remember when there was an international event of some kind in Montreal, and world leaders like the US president flew in, even as I kid I wondered how they were ever going to get these nonchalant laid-back yahoos to organize security. Such things just seemed so counter to their nature.
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> Yeah, bunch of nonchalant yahoos we are, in addition to smoking all the time (and also committing near-constant sexual harassment!) as other people in the thread claim. And that’s not even anywhere near @wolfpup’s worst post, I guess I just noticed it because that’s what I expect from the guy. (In fairness, I think even Justin Trudeau once told a German diplomat that we couldn’t expect Canadians to be great builders like the Germans because “lol the French 😛”. Albertans may have been offended by Trudeau saying he’d prefer Canada to be like Quebec than like Alberta, but what I say is, that guy sure loves his ethno-regional stereotypes.)

I’m sorry that you found my post offensive. Yes, it was snarky, but not meant to be offensive; it was in the same spirit as Dave Barry describing a boat trip from Florida to Bimini, where he described everyone as being so laid back that he called it the “lethargy zone”. Different regions have different cultures. As someone who spent the entirety of my younger years in Quebec, and then moved to Ontario, I was making an observation on cultural differences which I think I’m quite qualified to do based on lived experience.

Had I stated it more diplomatically, probably many Quebeckers would agree, expressing the sentiment that “we like our culture, and the ways that it differs from English formality”. Which is fine. My only real problem with Quebec, frankly, is the extent to which franco-nationalism has become a real threat to the basic civil rights of the anglophone minority.

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