# Who is definitely NOT subscribing?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 19, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215 "2004-03-19T15:48:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![big\_alex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e56c9b/32.png) [@big\_alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/big_alex)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/21 "2004-03-19T20:59:59Z")

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I will not pay the subscription either, mainly because I never pay for anything on the net. Although I rarely post, it still saddens me.  
I will still lurk though.

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**Author:** ![blasphmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@blasphmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blasphmer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/22 "2004-03-19T21:06:01Z")

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To quote Cartman  
**Screw You guys, I’m going home.**

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**Author:** ![moejuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@moejuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejuck)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/23 "2004-03-19T21:14:40Z")

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> [@Cajun Man](#):
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> Do you mean [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=245952) thread, **moejuck**?

**Cajun Man** , I am still waiting on a reply to this question. I do think the above thread should also be moved. Unless you are only moving the threads that you personally disagree with.

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**Author:** ![geewhiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@geewhiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/geewhiz)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/24 "2004-03-19T21:35:06Z")

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I have decided not to pay. It isn’t worth it. Man, and that says something considering it is only $4.95 For every 1 open minded person you have 3 closed minded idiots who can’t seem to understand that other people disagree with them.

Anyway to the ones I have had wonderful conversations with, good bye it has been fun. To the rest, well enjoy living in your bubble.

My two your prediction: The opinions and people on this board will become polarized. Everyone will believe the same thing and agree with each other on everything. And that is a shame.

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**Author:** ![SwingWing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SwingWing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwingWing)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/25 "2004-03-19T21:49:35Z")

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> [@geewhiz](#):
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> My two your prediction: The opinions and people on this board will become polarized. Everyone will believe the same thing and agree with each other on everything. And that is a shame.

Prophetic! This board will be in the tank by April, '05 after “everyone” gets tired of love “festing” with each other on each and every thread … on top of paying $7.50 to $14.95 a year to subscribe.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/26 "2004-03-19T22:13:26Z")

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> [@moejuck](#):
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> **Cajun Man** , I am still waiting on a reply to this question. I do think the above thread should also be moved. Unless you are only moving the threads that you personally disagree with.

Lose the martydom and insults, **moejuck**. Your opinons weren’t censored in any way. Your thread was merely _moved to a forum appropriate for polling_. Nothing more.

Right now we’re pretty well innudated with threads about the subscription plan. Some of them are very close in intent, w/ discussions that have veered away from the thread titles. This means we have to read them closely to juggle which should/shouldn’t be merged, moved to other forums, etc.

Speak your views. Knock yourself out. But the rules that hold for **MPSIMS** apply here as well: stay civil and no personal insults. If your outrage won’t fit those rules, take it to **The Pit**.

TVeblen,  
IMHO mod

**MPSIMS**

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/27 "2004-03-19T22:15:17Z")

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**kasuo** : I’m really surprised to read that you think nobody knows who you are! I know who you are. I’d consider you a reg, and I like your posts. And while I’m stroking you ego, I’ll take the opportunity to say that I like your username, too. Is it Japanese?

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/28 "2004-03-19T22:26:45Z")

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Like **big alex** , I don’t pay for things on the Internet, so I won’t be subscribing. It’s been a fun 2.5 years. I’m going to try to end things on an even 1,500 posts, just for kicks. This is #1,497.

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**Author:** ![DrDoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DrDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDoom)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/29 "2004-03-19T22:30:20Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> Right now we’re pretty well innudated with threads about the subscription plan.
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> TVeblen,  
> IMHO mod

Get real! Your not inundated by a “subscription plan” to this board. Your inundated because you are trying to charge a subsciption fee for an Internet bulletin board which is unprecedented …

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**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/30 "2004-03-19T22:34:16Z")

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I’ll be declining the opportunity to pay to post, as well.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/31 "2004-03-19T22:50:25Z")

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I’ll be declining as well. It’ll give me time to work on my own site, which has been neglected lately.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/32 "2004-03-19T23:06:11Z")

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> [@DrDoom](#):
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> Get real! Your not inundated by a “subscription plan” to this board. Your inundated because you are trying to charge a subsciption fee for an Internet bulletin board which is unprecedented …

Sigh.  
No wonder it’s taking so long.  
I said, rather clearly, that we are dealing with an unusually high volume of _threads_ on a common topic, i.e. subscriptions. Quite naturally, lots of people have strong opinions about it, pro and con.  
I attempted, apparently futilely, to explain the housekeeping issues involved. You know, sinister fascist stuff like merging nearly identical discussions, forum placement, etc. It’s to maybe, just possibly, keep the boards reasonably readable for all the people interested in the issue.  
_It’s fine and fair to dislike the idea._  
Just please channel your responses appropriately, okay?  
This is an **IMHO** poll. Keep your discussions civil and don’t hijack the poll by flaming. That isn’t fair to the OP. If you’re outraged, look into **The Pit**.

TVeblen  
P.S. Charging for internet bulletin boards is far from unprecedented. It’s just new for us.

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**Author:** ![DrDoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DrDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDoom)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/33 "2004-03-19T23:49:52Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> Sigh.  
> No wonder it’s taking so long.  
> I said, rather clearly, that we are dealing with an unusually high volume of _threads_ on a common topic, i.e. subscriptions. …
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> TVeblen  
> P.S. Charging for internet bulletin boards is far from unprecedented. It’s just new for us.

> [@TVeblen](#):
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> Right now we’re pretty well innudated with threads about the subscription plan.

Flip flopping too? I could care less, and I am certainly not outraged, about your moving this thread. You said you were inundated about the “subscription plan.” What about the fact that your are requiring people to pay to post? Talk about spin …

p.s. - please provide us with a list of open bulletin boards that require a subscription fee?

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/34 "2004-03-20T00:05:34Z")

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> [@DrDoom](#):
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> You said you were inundated about the “subscription plan.” What about the fact that your are requiring people to pay to post? Talk about spin …

She wasn’t talking about the subscription plan, dude. She was talking about the 20-25 threads that have popped up in all forums discussing it. THAT is what they are “inundated” with. There was no spin, just a simple lack of undertanding on your part. Hope that helps.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/35 "2004-03-20T00:15:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by **moejuck** _
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> **Cajun Man** , I am still waiting on a reply to this question. I do think the above thread should also be moved. Unless you are only moving the threads that you personally disagree with.

I did reply to your question, **moejuck**. Had you checked the [link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=245952) I supplied you to the thread in question, you would have seen that I had closed said thread (15 minutes before I moved yours) and posted a link to a previous thread on the same subject already in **IMHO**.

**Cajun Man**  
for the SDMB

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**Author:** ![DrDoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DrDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDoom)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/36 "2004-03-20T00:22:52Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> Right now we’re pretty well innudated with threads about the subscription plan. Some of them are very close in intent, w/ discussions that have veered away from the thread titles. This means we have to read them closely to juggle which should/shouldn’t be merged, moved to other forums, etc.
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> TVeblen,  
> IMHO mod
> 
> **MPSIMS**

> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> She wasn’t talking about the subscription plan, dude. She was talking about the 20-25 threads that have popped up in all forums discussing it. THAT is what they are “inundated” with. There was no spin, just a simple lack of undertanding on your part. Hope that helps.

Doesn’t help a bit. What does the first line in the above quote by the mod say?!?!

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/37 "2004-03-20T00:29:25Z")

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**DrDoom:** what’s the difference between “subscription plan” ( **TVeblen’s** words) and “the fact that your are requiring people to pay to post” (your words)? The point is, there’s a bunch of threads about that thing they said they were doing soon.

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**Author:** ![DrDoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DrDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDoom)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/38 "2004-03-20T00:35:47Z")

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> [@Jimmy Chitwood](#):
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> **DrDoom:** what’s the difference between “subscription plan” ( **TVeblen’s** words) and “the fact that your are requiring people to pay to post” (your words)? The point is, there’s a bunch of threads about that thing they said they were doing soon.

What I said after what the mod said is totally immaterial to this argument. He said “inundated about the subscription plan”, like “everyone” is interested in subscribing … pure spin!!! Cut me a break …

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/39 "2004-03-20T00:49:07Z")

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> [@DrDoom](#):
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> What I said after what the mod said is totally immaterial to this argument. He said “ **inundated** about the subscription plan”, like “everyone” is interested in subscribing … pure spin!!! Cut me a break …

[Inigo Montoya]I do not think this word means what you think it means[/IM]

Either that, or I just don’t understand your point.

Inundated with threads about the subscription plan does not mean that everyone wants to subscribe, it means there are many threads about the situation in general.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-definitely-not-subscribing/235215/40 "2004-03-20T00:55:57Z")

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> [@DrDoom](#):
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> Doesn’t help a bit. What does the first line in the above quote by the mod say?!?!

“Pretty innundated by threads…etc.”

This particular back-and-forth is finished, **Dr. Doom**. You’re hijacking the OP’s thread and that’s unfair. **IMHO** is for casual debate, with polling as a side feature.

Choose your point, look first for related threads and then proceed as appropriate, possibly including starting your own thread _from a new viewpoint, in an appropriate forum_. I will not allow this perfectly legitimate thread to be closed or derailed by one person.

I understand that feelings are running high, but please consider this as a formal warning. Speak your mind at will, but place your complaint rightly. You will play responsibly with others here or you won’t play at all, with or without subscriptions.

TVeblen,  
IMHO mod

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