# Who is Killing the Great Altie Docs of the South? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 3, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138 "2015-07-03T14:41:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/21 "2015-07-06T14:42:23Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Maybe they’re dying because they are getting their health care from one another? Or maybe each one tried to save him/herself. While singing, “Woo, woo, woo, woo - stayin’ alive, stayin’ al…”\* _whump_\* ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/22 "2015-07-06T15:48:20Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > Using murder to enforce tax collection only works if you TELL EVERYONE that you use murder to enforce tax collection. > > And yeah, It sucks for people to die. But I’m not as upset when it’s a quack. Since murder to encourage tax collection is not exactly legal and all that stuff, it behooves the IRS to just have it “happen” a few well-publicized times and for folks to connect the dots while the Feds issue bland disclaimers written in finest bureaucratese. Which so far is exactly what’s happening. Which proves my CT-style plot analysis is correct.\* ===== FTR: just kidding. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/23 "2015-07-08T15:43:36Z")
Those breathlessly following the Southern Holistic Doctors Murder Conspiracy case will be gratified that a local TV news outfit is busy connecting the dots, or at least Just Asking Questions: [http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29485995/is-dr-sievers-homicide-tied-to-2-recent-doctors-deaths#.VZ00AFPiU5g](http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29485995/is-dr-sievers-homicide-tied-to-2-recent-doctors-deaths#.VZ00AFPiU5g) A triumph of investigating reporting, I’m sure you will agree. Meantime, the sheriff overseeing the Sievers murder investigation says there’s “connectivity”\* in the case (i.e. not a random homicide), but won’t say more. > **[Lee County Sheriff Scott breaks silence on Sievers murder case](https://winknews.com/2015/07/07/lee-county-sheriff-scott-breaks-silence-on-sievers-murder-case/)** > > BONITA SPRINGS, Fla.- For the first time, WINK News is hearing directly from Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott on a murder case that’s terrified the community. Dr. Teresa Sievers was brutally killed in her home more than a week ago, and the sheriff’s... Nancy Grace is also on the case, I hear. Stay tuned for more exciting developments. \*not sure what this means - is there connectivity between the Mysterious Deaths, or did they all have wi-fi? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/24 "2015-07-08T16:20:48Z")
“Connectivity” in the woo sense. “Everything’s connected man!” ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/25 "2015-07-08T18:05:50Z")
Homeopathic lead poisoning? ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/26 "2015-07-08T18:09:53Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > “Connectivity” in the woo sense. “Everything’s connected man!” Perhaps the sheriff should call in Dirk Gently as a consultant. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/27 "2015-07-08T20:29:23Z")
If this case has Southern Sheriffs working on it, we’re sure to be in for a wild and wacky ride before it’s all over. Alert Geraldo Rivera and all the rest of the daytime TV sclockmeisters. Bwoy, you in a heap 'o trouble!! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/28 "2015-07-24T16:10:54Z")
Add another mysterious death to the toll of missing and dead altie docs. This time it’s Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez, who gained fame with his updated version of Hoxsey therapy (involving massive doses of supplements for cancer patients along with coffee enemas and other quackery). It would appear _superficially_ that Gonzalez, who was in his 60s, died of a sudden cardiac event, but we must not be hasty making conclusions. _When he died – he was alone. His body was found some time after he died. As of now, there has been no autopsy report. We do not know if an autopsy has been requested. Everyone that knew Dr. Gonzalez is SHOCKED – and many of his friends are left with lots of questions about his death._ [http://www.naturalhealth365.com/dr-nicholas-gonzalez-cancer-doctor-1502.html](http://www.naturalhealth365.com/dr-nicholas-gonzalez-cancer-doctor-1502.html) Yes, how could an older man die of a sudden massive heart attack or arrhythmia? Unheard of! Stay tuned for more shocking developments. \*Gonzalez was in the news awhile back when the NCI sponsored a trial of his supplement-and-enema therapy compared to standard evidence-based treatment for pancreatic cancer. The outcome: Gonzalez’s patients did considerably worse than those on standard treatment and had poorer quality of life - not surprising given the massive amount of supplement pills they had to scarf down each day plus all those coffee enemas and other dubious attentions. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/29 "2015-07-24T17:06:51Z")
And every one of my doctors, who all practice standard FDA & AMA approved medicine (and are therefore lackeys of BIG PHARMA!) are still alive. Strange, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/30 "2015-07-24T22:32:23Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Homeopathic lead poisoning? At 13c dilution, the lightest .177 caliber pellet (7 grains) would have the impact of [2/3 the mass of the moon](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7.1+grains+times+10%5E26+in+tonnes). So maybe she was homeopathically squished? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/31 "2015-07-25T04:20:44Z")
Hmmm . . . looks like the anti-vax vax is working. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/32 "2015-07-31T14:21:37Z")
Yet _ANOTHER_ holistic doc murdered - and Mainstream Media is silent. [http://edgytruth.com/2015/07/15/another-holistic-doctor-found-murdered/#](http://edgytruth.com/2015/07/15/another-holistic-doctor-found-murdered/#) I’m sure you will all agree that her husband (who has been charged in the death) [couldn’t possibly be involved](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/georgia-boxer-terrible-thomas-charged-death-wife-article-1.2299817) and that it’s a frame-up job. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/33 "2015-07-31T15:49:41Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > These are all within what time frame? I’m reasonably sure we can cross off homeopathic poisoners from the suspect list. That depends on whether they were old style homeopathic or new ageish ones. It could have been a Greek immigrant doctor with a pet peeve about word misuse. > [@Jackmannii](#): > > I’m not sure what to make of [this violent death](http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/professor-seeking-cancer-cure-murdered-in-plantation-home-6450922) of a cancer researcher. On the face of it, the man had impressive mainstream academic credentials, but his work was in the area of radio frequency waves targeting tumor cells, not drugs, so you could theorize that a Pharma hit man got him. :dubious::eek::smack: The robbery story is a coverup, but not by the wife, or by a disgruntled postdoc, or by the butler. Nooo! It’s IUPAP, not wanting us to know that he is part of an experiment where he lives neither in Planation nor in Plantation or maybe in both but well, actually, it’s indetermined. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/34 "2015-08-29T02:13:52Z")
[Great googa-mooga](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/second-man-arrested-in-murder-of-florida-doctor-teresa-sievers/), there’s been an arrest in the murder of Alternative Holistic Doctor Teresa Sievers (actually two arrests). It’s being reported that one of the suspects is a close friend of Sievers’ husband. Sievers is said to have been killed with a hammer, and the other suspect reportedly calls himself “Hammer” on Facebook, which is probably just a coincidence. Regardless, to the faithful these arrests are obviously a misdirection ploy to take suspicion off the Giant Pharma/Medical Mafia conspiracy to eliminate alternative doctors. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138/35 "2015-09-21T13:55:01Z")
The plot to do in alternative docs has taken a bizarre new turn, with the hospitalization of 29 homeopaths attending a conference in Germany. It seems they all took [a psychedelic drug](http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/homeopathy-conference-ends-in-chaos-after-delegates-take-hallucinogenic-drug-10491114.html), and squads of emergency personnel and vehicles had to be called when the symptoms proved unpleasant. Naturally the altie press (if one can use that word) has leaped on the story as more proof that the Giant Pharma Reptilian Conspiracy will stop at nothing to eliminate threats to their engorged profits. On the other hand, a onetime homeopath turned prominent quackery debunker has concluded that these supposed victims should be honored - for discovering [a cure for homeopathy!](http://edzardernst.com/2015/09/will-these-homeopaths-get-the-nobel-prize/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-killing-the-great-altie-docs-of-the-south/724138.md?page=1)