# Who is Lenny in JL8 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 13, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818 "2013-11-13T15:12:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/1 "2013-11-13T15:12:17Z")
The JL8 webcomic, which can be found at [http://jl8comic.tumblr.com/](http://jl8comic.tumblr.com/), is a resetting of the justice league and associated villians in the third grade. It’s adorable. However, I can’t identify one of the villians. It’s the one named Lenny (who features in the recent run of strips). He’s hanging out with Solomon Grundy and Lex Luther, and wears a blue parka and shades wherever he goes. Anybody know who he’s supposed to represent? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/2 "2013-11-13T15:17:21Z")
Leonard Snart-Captain Cold. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/3 "2013-11-13T16:05:46Z")
Well, that was quick. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/4 "2013-11-13T16:14:26Z")
No prob…and I didn’t even look at your link. I’m just a big fan of Flash’s Rogue Gallery. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/5 "2013-11-13T17:27:48Z")
That strip is fantastic. It works better than the adult version because their problems are so much realer to them than alien invasions. Real characters have real problems. Even that Neil guy probably knows that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/6 "2013-11-13T19:41:51Z")
My husband and I are fans, too. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/7 "2013-11-13T19:56:21Z")
Thanks for sharing that. I really enjoyed it. Reminds me a lot of Aaron Williams’ [PS238](http://ps238.nodwick.com/?p=26) ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/8 "2013-11-13T20:43:41Z")
That’s really cool. I went back to the first one to read them in order, in the first strip Alfred tells Bruce he has to go to school or “no Gray Ghost tonight” - a cute reference to the [Beware the Gray Ghost](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beware_the_Gray_Ghost) episode of “Batman: the Animated Series” where adult Bruce meets the actor from his favorite childhood TV show “The Gray Ghost,” voiced by Adam West. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/9 "2013-11-13T22:27:32Z")
Holy crap, it just kept getting better and better. He totally nails the characters, especially the Clark-Bruce dynamic. Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/10 "2013-11-13T22:44:07Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Holy crap, it just kept getting better and better. He totally nails the characters, especially the Clark-Bruce dynamic. Awesome. I’m also impressed by how creepy he made the eight year old Joker. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/11 "2013-11-13T22:46:23Z")
Neil is Neil Gaiman? Cute. I don’t know most of the villains though. Is there a cheat sheet somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/12 "2013-11-13T22:56:23Z")
I’ll spoiler it in case you want to keep guessing: Tall pale kid - Solomon Grundy Red haired kid in suit - Lex Luthor Kid with toys - Toyman Kid in red hoodie - Joker (“Red Hood” is the Joker’s pre-Joker identity) Lenny in blue hood and weird glasses - Captain Cold Girl in green outfit with flowers - Poison Ivy Girl with fur coat and cat ears - Cheetah ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/13 "2013-11-13T22:58:06Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’m also impressed by how creepy he made the eight year old Joker. I know, right? When I figured out he was the Joker I head slapped and had to go back and start the playground scenes over. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/14 "2013-11-13T23:08:02Z")
> [@Greg\_Charles](#): > > Neil is Neil Gaiman? Cute. I don’t know most of the villains though. Is there a cheat sheet somewhere? [On the third page, with the headshots of all the villains:](http://jl8comic.tumblr.com/post/25621371238/jl8-50-by-yale-stewart-based-on-characters-in-dc) Bully: [Solomon Grundy.](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110930050619/marvel_dc/images/7/79/Solomon_Grundy_New_Earth_033.jpg) Prankster: [Toyman](http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/8190/311623-111211-toyman.jpg) Thief: [Captain Cold](http://gemakei.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/3-captain-cold.jpg) Manipulator: [Poison Ivy](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/BGK15.png) Fanatic: [Cheetah](http://api.ning.com/files/ENQzNaqHmJ4fYbxAee9I9PQCuDPtupycj*N8cMBt6Q5gP6chktp9XM4ZdrK99ZiJga6DA247iymfWCM4h-m9XThmXaBsgmzB/JL131.png) Narcissist: [Lex Luthor](http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125404/2740049-1136853-lex_luthor1_large.jpg) Clown: [The Joker](http://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/6/65/Bolland_Joker.jpg/300px-Bolland_Joker.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/15 "2013-11-13T23:09:13Z")
Red Hood! :smack: Totally missed that! ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/16 "2013-11-13T23:18:28Z")
Subtle, right? 😃 There are little jokes and references all through it. There’s one on #136 where Hal, Barry and J’onn are talking about a story with a “super powerful robot guy” that I feel like is probably a reference I’m missing. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/17 "2013-11-13T23:24:02Z")
Also, the page with Superman’s speech about the costumes not making them grown ups needs to be tattooed, upside down, on Dan DiDio’s chest. Joe Quesada’s, too, just for good measure. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/18 "2013-11-13T23:38:07Z")
This is great! Thanks for introducing me to it! ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/19 "2013-11-13T23:54:59Z")
Another “thank you for bringing this into my life.” ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818/20 "2013-11-14T00:01:02Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Subtle, right? 😃 There are little jokes and references all through it. There’s one on #136 where Hal, Barry and J’onn are talking about a story with a “super powerful robot guy” that I feel like is probably a reference I’m missing. I’m pretty sure they’re talking about the Avengers movies. Barry’s psyched for the second because the villain will be Ultron, the super-awesome robot. Hal’s confused because the first one ended with a stinger suggesting it was going to be Thanos. J’onn still hasn’t seen it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-lenny-in-jl8/673818.md?page=2)