# Who is more likely to be able to live without the other?  Liberals or Conservatives?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-more-likely-to-be-able-to-live-without-the-other-liberals-or-conservatives/789514 "2017-06-21T06:04:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-more-likely-to-be-able-to-live-without-the-other-liberals-or-conservatives/789514/101 "2017-06-28T01:59:17Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Can you make an atlatl and use it to kill a deer, which you will gut and skin with your flint knife and cook over the fire you made yourself?

Oddly enough a friend of mine’s daughter just made an atlatl, which looked pretty lethal in the video I saw. I suspect she used modern tools to build it though.

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**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-more-likely-to-be-able-to-live-without-the-other-liberals-or-conservatives/789514/102 "2017-06-28T08:51:50Z")

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> [@sleestak](#):
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> You do realize, don’t you, that he whole ‘burn coal’ thing instead of the ‘build nuclear’ thing is because liberals with little to no understanding of nuclear effectively killed nuclear in the U.S. You understand that, don’t you?
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> Slee

Nuclear would dip for a time until we developed a way to burn spent fuel in more advanced fission reactors and or created viable fusion reactors for power. In the meantime more of a mix of solar and wind would be advanced. Long term I have no doubts that liberaltopia would continue to develop nuclear, we still need that for more remote locations on earth with less sunlight, and we’ll definitely need it for our eventual expansion to Mars and beyond. Solar is not going to cut it that far away.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-more-likely-to-be-able-to-live-without-the-other-liberals-or-conservatives/789514/103 "2017-06-28T16:43:37Z")

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> [@sleestak](#):
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> You do realize, don’t you, that he whole ‘burn coal’ thing instead of the ‘build nuclear’ thing is because liberals with little to no understanding of nuclear effectively killed nuclear in the U.S. You understand that, don’t you?
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> Slee

I actually do realize that! However times have changed, and I believe that when libertopia realizes that solar and wind power alone aren’t sufficient to provide steady power in the amounts needed by modern society (yes, I said it), they’d scramble for another clean(-ish) alternative and find nuclear.

(And as noted, the only reason I don’t think conservatopia wouldn’t do the same is that I believe there are profit incentives to keep digging up and burning fossil fuels until they find a balrog.)

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**Author:** ![RupieDupie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@RupieDupie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RupieDupie)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-more-likely-to-be-able-to-live-without-the-other-liberals-or-conservatives/789514/104 "2017-06-30T05:01:32Z")

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> [@Salvor](#):
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> This is pure speculation and will never happen, but imagine that all the people in the US were warped to an identical set of twin worlds to live, but the population would be split where all the liberals and all the conservatives would be put on different worlds. For the people right in the center, they could be given a choice in a sort of purgatory and decide which world they wanted to move to.  
> For one, which society do you think would be more prosperous and robust? There would still be a spectrum of views of course, but shifted to the left and right, with authoritarian/libertarian impulses spread all around.
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> Which would have a harder time thriving for the lack of the other “type” of people?

IMO, what would happen is if there is still contact between the two populations, there would be some people in both camps that are just a little bit lefter or a little bit righter, and therefore one day one member from the right camp would point out how left some members are or one member from the left camp would point out how right some members are, and all the other members who believe they are true leftists or rightists would travel a little bit further in that direction etc etc if people decide they want to disobey this they will be imprisoned or “re-educated” etc etc until one day we have the same result on both sides - two fascist states. If there is no contact between the two populations IMO they will settle down to a different equilibrium point, both towards the centre.

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