# Who is 'Old Boy'?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 13, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882 "2009-09-13T02:57:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/1 "2009-09-13T02:57:02Z")

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One ex-gf at one time had had a black bf. Now, bf said to her, concerning a mutual friend “I’ll go by Old Boy’s house before coming over.”

Many years later, a black co-worker said to me “I asked ‘Old Boy’ to come in on his day off.” I knew of whom he spoke, of course, but the reference hit a note.

Later on, he told me that he had asked ‘Old Girl’ to do something. I knew of whom he spoke, but the Old somethingorother rang a bell.

So, in the black community, who is ‘Old Boy’ or where did the name originate?

Thanks,  
hh

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**Author:** ![Coalcracker0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Coalcracker0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coalcracker0)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/2 "2009-09-13T23:24:49Z")

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Not really an answer, but another point of ref: I come from the hard-coal regions of NE PA. We say, “Our lad”, as in “Our lad over there is buying a round.”. Also say “Our lady” where appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/3 "2009-09-13T23:32:18Z")

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Maybe they were both fans of “From Russia With Love.”

I got nuthin’.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/4 "2009-09-14T01:33:28Z")

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Is this a black thing? I know two guys who talk that way and they’re white.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/5 "2009-09-14T02:54:51Z")

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This is a very common expression here in Mississippi. I’ve heard it mostly from whites though.

ETA: Also, it’s more common among the over-35 crowd. Younger people say ‘dude’. “I saw dude walking on the tracks today”. “Then dude brought me my latte”.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/6 "2009-09-14T02:57:13Z")

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[This guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oldboykoreanposter.jpg).

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**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/7 "2009-09-14T18:02:17Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> One ex-gf at one time had had a black bf. Now, bf said to her, concerning a mutual friend “I’ll go by Old Boy’s house before coming over.”
> 
> Many years later, a black co-worker said to me “I asked ‘Old Boy’ to come in on his day off.” I knew of whom he spoke, of course, but the reference hit a note.
> 
> Later on, he told me that he had asked ‘Old Girl’ to do something. I knew of whom he spoke, but the Old somethingorother rang a bell.
> 
> So, in the black community, who is ‘Old Boy’ or where did the name originate?
> 
> Thanks,  
> hh

“Old Boy” and “Old Girl” come from the same roots (ouch) as “Old man” and “Old Lady”.

I have friends from Detroit that use it. I haven’t heard it much in California, so it could be a midwest/down south thang.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/8 "2009-09-14T18:07:46Z")

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I knew a group of friends who used it a lot back in the '90s. One of them got punched out in a nightclub for saying “excuse me, old boy” to someone.

We always said “homey” or “homeboy,” semi-ironically.

Now I guess I’d probably say dude if anything, but I’m not really cool enough to have friends who understand slang anymore.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/9 "2009-09-14T19:34:24Z")

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In British public schools, an “Old Boy” is what we would call “an alumnus”.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/10 "2009-09-14T20:18:37Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> In British public schools, an “Old Boy” is what we would call “an alumnus”.

It was also very commonly used in Britain in the 1930s/40s/50s as a general term. “Hello, old boy! I haven’t seen you in a while.”

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-old-boy/509882/11 "2009-09-14T21:18:46Z")

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I recall Will Smith claiming he was “trying to get a feel for the old girl” in _Independence Day_.
