# Who is on your Mount Rushmore of Baseball?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 14, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247 "2013-08-14T20:40:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/21 "2013-08-15T12:24:26Z")

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Alexander Cartwright (Codified early rules)  
Harry Wright (Organizer of first fully professional team)  
Casey Stengel (Best Manager)  
Babe Ruth (Best Player)

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/22 "2013-08-15T12:31:50Z")

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Babe Ruth  
Lou Gehrig  
Willy Mays  
Jackie Robinson

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/23 "2013-08-15T13:42:51Z")

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Babe Ruth  
Jackie Robinson  
Cy Young  
Sadahura Oh (since the OP said “baseball” and not “MLB”).

If we stick to MLB players, I am tempted to put Mariano Rivera in the last slot.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/24 "2013-08-15T13:48:20Z")

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Babe Ruth  
Joe DiMaggio/Lou Gehrig (I’m split and could accept either one)  
Willy Mays  
Jackie Robinson

Those are the “faces” of baseball. Yes, pitching is left out (except sort of Ruth), but really, how many ball players would the average person recognize? Those are all names that most people would know were baseball players.

If you want to make it more spread out by era:  
Babe Ruth  
Jackie Robinson  
Johnny Bench (assuming Pete Rose is ineligible, if not Rose)  
Derek Jeter (in spite of not really wanting to include an active player)

Again, not necessarily the best players (although some were), but recognizably the face of baseball in their time.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/25 "2013-08-15T16:54:46Z")

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Babe Ruth  
Willie Mays  
Sandy Koufax  
Bill James

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/26 "2013-08-15T18:41:13Z")

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Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson, Mickey Mantle, and Harry Caray.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/27 "2013-08-15T18:44:04Z")

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Sandy Koufax  
Don Drysdale  
Pee Wee Reese  
Don Sutton

Honorable mention: Vin Scully

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/28 "2013-08-15T18:49:00Z")

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Ruth, Aaron, Robinson, Scully

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/29 "2013-08-15T18:50:56Z")

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Babe Ruth - best player  
Casey Stengel - best manager  
A. Cartwright - codified the game  
Jackie Robinson - truly turned it into America’s pasttime.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/30 "2013-08-16T04:19:18Z")

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Babe Ruth - greatest ever  
Jackie Robinson - changed the game forever  
Hank Greenberg - Jewish Jackie  
Roberto Clemente - Latin Jackie

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/31 "2013-08-16T04:30:42Z")

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Ruth  
Robinson  
Aaron  
Nolan Ryan

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/32 "2013-08-16T10:48:33Z")

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(Cartwright wrote the earliest surviving written set of rules, but that doesn’t mean he invented the game).

Babe Ruth, obviously  
Jackie Robinson, for what baseball has meant in society  
Harry Wright (if you can only pick one name to be the founder of the major leagues)  
Earl Weaver (one of the faces of what is so much fun about the game)

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/33 "2013-08-16T11:09:46Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Sandy Koufax  
> Don Drysdale  
> Pee Wee Reese  
> Don Sutton
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> Honorable mention: Vin Scully

There ARE teams other than the Dodgers! :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/34 "2013-08-16T11:43:43Z")

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Babe Ruth  
Jackie Robinson  
Mariano Rivera  
Rickey Henderson

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/35 "2013-08-16T11:49:26Z")

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I’m not qualified to opine but will try to contribute as a clerk. By my count the votes as of post #34 are:

```
 25 Babe Ruth
 17 Jackie Robinson
  8 Willie Mays
  6 Alexander Cartwright
  5 Ted Williams
  3 Sandy Koufax
  3 Lou Gehrig
  3 Walter Johnson
  3 Hank Aaron
  2 Mickey Mantle
  2 Joe DiMaggio
  2 Harry Wright
  2 Casey Stengel

  1 Warren Spahn
  1 Ty Cobb
  1 Turk Wendell
  1 Stan Musial
  1 Vin Scully
  1 Sadahura Oh
  1 Roberto Clemente
  1 Pete Rose 
  1 Pee Wee Reese
  1 Oil Can Boyd
  1 Nolan Ryan
  1 Mark McGwire
  1 Ichiro Suzuki
  1 Harry Caray
  1 Hank Greenberg
  1 Eddie Gaedel
  1 Earl Weaver
  1 Don Sutton
  1 Don Drysdale
  1 Cy Young
  1 Branch Rickey
  1 Bob Feller
  1 Bill James
  1 Barry Bonds
  1 Alex Rodriguez
  1 Al Hrabosky
  1 Mariano Rivera
  1 Rickey Henderson

```

(We’re waiting on a 4th vote from a few posters. I didn’t know what to do with **Zakalwe** ’s post – he needs to subtract one from the five votes I’ve credited to him above.)

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/36 "2013-08-16T12:15:40Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> (Cartwright wrote the earliest surviving written set of rules, but that doesn’t mean he invented the game).

Of course. Nobody invented baseball. Cartwright was still more foundational than anyone else mentioned.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/37 "2013-08-16T12:25:43Z")

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Babe Ruth  
Pete Rose  
Nolan Ryan  
Joe Shlabotnik

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/38 "2013-08-16T12:31:55Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> (We’re waiting on a 4th vote from a few posters. I didn’t know what to do with **Zakalwe** ’s post – he needs to subtract one from the five votes I’ve credited to him above.)

I listed DiMaggio first, so subtract one from Gehrig. Thanks for that, it’s an interesting list. 2 “of course” players and then it gets muddy fast…

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/39 "2013-08-16T12:50:13Z")

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Gutzon Borglum had it easy with the actual Mount Rushmore; he only had 30 possibilities to choose from.

I’m dismayed to see so little representation for the art of pitching, which is so fundamental in distinguishing baseball from all previous bat-and-ball games. Christy Mathewson?

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/40 "2013-08-16T15:05:44Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> So I think I’ll just leave that 4th spot empty for now.

OK, the other posts have convinced me that we need a founding father up there - so add Cartwright as my 4th (making my vote: Ruth, Mays, Walter Johnson, Alexander Cartwright).

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