# Who is on your Mount Rushmore of Baseball? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 14, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247 "2013-08-14T20:40:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/41 "2013-08-16T18:12:45Z")
Cartwright (codified the game) Ruth (best player) Stengel (best manager) Kenesaw Mountain Landis - first and most influential commissioner of baseball ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/42 "2013-08-16T18:20:43Z")
I’m kind of surprised that I’m the only one voted for Oh. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/43 "2013-08-16T18:38:46Z")
Maybe lack of familiarity with Japanese baseball’s cultural aspects. Anybody with a Web connection can find out who the best players there were and are statistically, but it’s far less clear who the \*faces of the game \*there have been. In terms of on-field performance, there’s also awareness that the top leagues there are AAA or AAAA in quality, so performances there are discounted, fairly or not. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/44 "2013-08-16T19:03:58Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > There ARE teams other than the Dodgers! :rolleyes: None that matter. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/45 "2013-08-16T20:10:32Z")
Ruth, Mays, Cy Young, and Walter Johnson. Seems only fair to have two pitchers and two hitters on there. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/46 "2013-08-16T20:19:34Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Cartwright (codified the game) > Ruth (best player) > Stengel (best manager) > Kenesaw Mountain Landis - first and most influential commissioner of baseball Hey, if we’re looking at managers and commissioners (which is legit), how about general managers? Branch Rickey? Responsible for integration (he signed Robinson _and_ Clemente), _and_ the minor league farm system. And he built eight pennant winners. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/47 "2013-08-16T20:39:48Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Maybe lack of familiarity with Japanese baseball’s cultural aspects. Anybody with a Web connection can find out who the best players there were and are statistically, but it’s far less clear who the \*faces of the game \*there have been. In terms of on-field performance, there’s also awareness that the top leagues there are AAA or AAAA in quality, so performances there are discounted, fairly or not. Oh absolutely IS the face of Japanese baseball. But the OP asked for the Mount Rushmore of baseball, and Rushmore’s indisputably an American thing. There aren’t any statesmen from other countries on the real Mount Rushmore. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/48 "2013-08-16T20:44:42Z")
Mount Rushmore is the Mount Rushmore of America(n Presidents). “The Mount Rushmore of baseball” should have no intrinsic limitation to American baseball… except that, for the first half of baseball history, there was basically no other kind. And while Japanese baseball _is_ very important, I’m not sure it deserves one-fourth of the total monument. Maybe if Oh was taken to represent all of baseball beyond America. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/49 "2013-08-16T21:25:23Z")
OP chiming in. I intentionally did not limit this to MLB. It’s your mount, carve who you like into it. mmm ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/50 "2013-08-17T01:17:46Z")
Ruth Robinson Bonds Paige ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/51 "2013-08-17T01:22:55Z")
On second thought, replace Paige with Yogi Berra. I can’t really explain why. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/52 "2013-08-17T01:52:55Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > On second thought, replace Paige with Yogi Berra. I can’t really explain why. You shouldn’t really explain why you should. ---
**Author:** ![denquixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@denquixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/denquixote)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/53 "2013-08-17T02:55:51Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Hey, if we’re looking at managers and commissioners (which is legit), how about general managers? Branch Rickey? Responsible for integration (he signed Robinson _and_ Clemente), _and_ the minor league farm system. And he built eight pennant winners. As well as what may have been the worst team in baseball history, the 1952 Pittsburgh Pirates with a .273 winning percentage. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/54 "2013-08-17T03:04:42Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > It’s your mount, carve who you like into it. Exactly. Which is why mine is all Dodgers. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/55 "2013-08-17T03:06:33Z")
Anybody can have a bad year. 🙂 Actually, that was only the tenth-worst major-league mark. Five NL teams (including the 1962 Mets) and four AL (including the 2003 Tigers) have played to worse final percentages. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/56 "2013-08-17T03:07:07Z")
Babe Ruth Willie Mays Cy Young Stan Musial ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/57 "2013-08-17T05:55:15Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Today, 08:17 AM > … > Today, 08:22 AM > On second thought, replace Paige with Yogi Berra. I can’t really explain why. I’d pay up and become a Member of this Board … if they’d just have the decency to increase, as repeatedly requested, the Edit window from 5 minutes to 6 or 7 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/58 "2013-08-17T06:46:13Z")
Givens: 1. Babe Ruth 2. Jackie Robinson Picked because I’m biased toward him: 3. Willie Mays Because there should be at least one great pitcher: 4. Cy Young\* \*Would not object if substituted with Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson, Satchel Paige, Sandy Koufax. or Bob Gibson. ---
**Author:** ![denquixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@denquixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/denquixote)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247/59 "2013-08-19T05:40:04Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Anybody can have a bad year. 🙂 > > Actually, that was only the tenth-worst major-league mark. Five NL teams (including the 1962 Mets) and four AL (including the 2003 Tigers) have played to worse final percentages. I did not say it was the worst mark; only that it was arguably the worst team. And then he traded Ralph Kiner. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-on-your-mount-rushmore-of-baseball/666247.md?page=2)