# Who is papable right now?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 19, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475 "2025-02-19T01:01:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/101 "2025-04-22T19:04:13Z")

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I couldn’t think of a good Erdő joke. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/102 "2025-04-22T19:04:46Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Because Sarah has had a variety of offices in the Holy See so I assume he’s more politically connected among the cardinal-electors. And while Sarah and Erdő are conservatives, Sarah’s positions are very public meaning you know who you are voting for rather than a relative unknown.

Sounds reasonable. There’s also our very own Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke to consider in the very conservative wing. My guess is that in the first round all of those guys will get some votes (probably around geography with the conservative Africans voting for Sarah, conservative Europeans for Erdo, and conservative USAians for Burke), and eventually they will consolidate around one of them. Will that be enough to put one of them over the top at 2/3? I don’t even want to try to guess.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/103 "2025-04-22T19:18:14Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> So you’re saying there’s not a lot of cardinals with low Erdő numbers?

:: golf clap ::

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/104 "2025-04-22T20:11:05Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> So you’re saying there’s not a lot of cardinals with low Erdő numbers?

But how many degrees are they from [Cardinal Bacon](https://www.cardinalmeats.com/capabilities/peameal)?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/105 "2025-04-22T20:50:22Z")

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It’s sacrilicious!

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/106 "2025-04-22T21:02:35Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Question: Can the Pope be elected from churches in communion with the RCC, like the Coptic, Ethiopian, Marionite, Greek Byzantine, &c.?

Wiki says there are [eight Cardinals from seven of the 23 Eastern Rite churches](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_cardinals#Cardinals_by_particular_church_sui_iuris), five of whom are eligible to vote for the Pope. The others are over age 80.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/107 "2025-04-23T01:47:13Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> (sorry, I don’t know how to make the diacritics to spell his name properly)

On an iPhone or iPad, hold down the “o” key and a number of accents come up; slide your finger along to “ő” and release.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/108 "2025-04-23T08:18:14Z")

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Likewise Android.

Windows computers - look at the “character map”.

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**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/109 "2025-04-23T08:37:07Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Question: Can the Pope be elected from churches in communion with the RCC, like the Coptic, Ethiopian, Marionite, Greek Byzantine, &c.?

Legally, the requirements to be eligible are, essentially, that you must be a baptised male Catholic, but “Catholic” in this sense means the entirety of the 24 “particular churches” that make up the Roman Catholic Church and recognise the pope’s primacy. What people think of when they say RCC is the Latin Church, which is only one of those 24 particular churches, although it is, of course, by far the largest one.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/110 "2025-04-24T19:56:22Z")

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Hard to believe, when they stripped him of all his other “rights and privileges,” that the Vatican didn’t make clear he couldn’t take part in any subsequent conclave.

> **[Convicted cardinal demands to be part of conclave to choose new pope, setting...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/23/europe/cardinal-becciu-conclave-controversy-intl/index.html)**
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> A cardinal convicted of financial crimes by the Vatican is claiming he can take part in the forthcoming conclave despite being listed as a “non-elector.”

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/111 "2025-05-03T14:18:03Z")

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> **[The ultra conservatives wanting to make the Vatican great again](https://www.politico.eu/article/vaticans-church-catholic-pope-francis-hard-right/)**
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> With Trump back in the White House, the alt right are attempting a hostile takeover of the group deciding on the next pope.

> **[White House posts AI image of Trump as pope](https://www.politico.eu/article/white-house-post-ai-generated-picture-donald-trump-pope/)**
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> “I’d like to be pope,” Trump jokingly told reporters this week, soon after attending the funeral of Pope Francis in Rome.

Ha ha you say. They are more clever than you think.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-papable-right-now/1014475/112 "2025-05-05T03:36:07Z")

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Never mind about this guy:

> **[Conclave update: Cardinals react as convicted Becciu exits pope election](https://www.newsweek.com/conclave-update-new-pope-election-cardinals-vatican-2066602)**
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> Cardinals respond to Becciu's withdrawal from the 2025 conclave as frontrunners emerge to succeed Pope Francis.

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