# Who is Pete Buttigieg? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 12, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032 "2019-03-12T21:59:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/241 "2019-04-18T01:18:07Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > He has also been in a number of undisclosed dinners with Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Terry McAuliffe organised by long term donor Bernard Schwartz which leads me to believe that the mainstream Democratic leadership is more concerned about a potential leaders pliability and ability to be controlled. Not so easy with Bernie Sanders. More likely, they are sussing out what other jobs he might be happy with. Not to bribe him out of the race, they all know he’s not winning, but he seems like a real asset. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/242 "2019-04-18T02:01:31Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > It hasn’t completely soured me, but I’m very very unimpressed by this turd of a “[national service](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/pete-buttigieg-national-service-program-1277274)” idea. He danced around whether it would be mandatory or enforced merely through economic discrimination against the losers who choose not to dig and refill potholes for Uncle Sam, but either idea sounds pretty terrible, both for the unwilling national servants and the people who _would_ do those jobs for market wages and benefits but now have to compete with a bunch of temps. In the article, he says that it’s a really popular idea. I was surprised, so I did a quick search for polling on this. The [only poll](https://www.thecollegefix.com/millennials-support-national-service-program-linked-loan-forgiveness-harvard-poll-finds/) I found was one where the idea was popular if student debt was forgiven in exchange. But mandatory national service only had a 7 percent approval. > [@](#): > > A majority of young people of all political persuasions support the creation of some sort of national service program for those 25 and under **linked to student loan forgiveness or a similar incentive** , according to a new poll. > . . . . . > The survey of 18- to 29-year-olds found that 7 percent even support a mandatory national service, while only 10 percent of respondents said they would not support national service at all; 33 percent were either unsure or did not answer, according to pollsters. bold added Several Presidential candidates have policies with student loan forgiveness without the national service. Since the approvals were only in the 60% range, the approval for national service might not be as high if the student loan forgiveness was taken away. ---
**Author:** ![zuer-coli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ba9def/32.png) [@zuer-coli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuer-coli)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/243 "2019-04-18T02:16:09Z")
Denizens of the Dope, Re; Mayor Pete I live 10-15 miles from South Bend and went to that old leaky Studebaker factory on Sunday, 14-Apr-19. It wasn’t raining quite as hard inside as it was outside, even if it sometimes it seemed like it. What a hyped-up crowd, my local paper quoted the South Bend Fire Marshal as saying there were more than 4000 inside and another 1500+ outside. It felt quite cramped, I did use some of my time thinking of just how inadequate the exiting was. I got to the temporary entrance gate at about 09:00 EDST. I waited two and a half hours before people were allowed to go in. Once inside, I waited about the same amount of time before Mr. Buttigieg spoke. Very unusual experience for me, I found that trying to keep something of a dispassionate point of view to be quite difficult. Respectfully yours Zuer-coli ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/244 "2019-04-18T08:43:25Z")
> [@](#): > > **CarnalK** > More likely, they are sussing out what other jobs he might be happy with. Not to bribe him out of the race, they all know he’s not winning, but he seems like a real asset. Yeah, a real asset for not changing much of the status quo. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/245 "2019-04-18T09:17:24Z")
> [@zuer-coli](#): > > I got to the temporary entrance gate at about 09:00 EDST. I waited two and a half hours before people were allowed to go in. Once inside, I waited about the same amount of time before Mr. Buttigieg spoke. Wow. That’s poor organisation. If he can’t organise a rally, how can he organise a country? May’s [shit-show](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20171437&postcount=174) at [Crathes](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20171865&postcount=179) proved to be prophetic. ---
**Author:** ![SOJA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SOJA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SOJA)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/246 "2019-04-18T09:24:43Z")
Because we have laws in our country of how many occupants may be in a building like that at any one time. You’re questioning pushing and shoving by guests who want to be inside. The problem is out of his hands and in the hands of the fire marshal. As for his chances, it’s really Biden, Bernie and him. When the “Bernie Bros” are slandering him at any chance, there’s a reason to it. It’s still too early to tell, but individuals like Harris, Warren, Booker, et al. aren’t even being mentioned anymore. O’Rouke may have his thunder stolen. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/247 "2019-04-18T14:33:20Z")
> [@SOJA](#): > > You’re questioning pushing and shoving by guests who want to be inside. No, I’m questioning waiting 5 hours to hear him speak. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/248 "2019-04-18T16:31:06Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > No, I’m questioning waiting 5 hours to hear him speak. That’s not uncommon, I can remember waiting that long to hear John Kerry and I had a special pass to guarantee admittance since I was a campaign volunteer. It takes forever to get into the venue, then there are numerous warm up speakers. It’s kind of like going to a rock concert. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/249 "2019-04-18T17:02:38Z")
> [@zuer-coli](#): > > …Very unusual experience for me, I found that trying to keep something of a dispassionate point of view to be quite difficult. > > Respectfully yours Zuer-coli And now, after hearing him speak in person, what did you think? Are you more or less likely to support him, or unchanged, and why? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/250 "2019-04-18T18:19:41Z")
Orange Junior tried to own Pete and got owned. > **[Trump Jr.'s Attempted Twitter Takedown Of Pete Buttigieg Goes Spectacularly Awry](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-pete-buttigieg-reaction_n_5cb6c51ae4b098b9a2dc20d2)** > > Donald Trump's son was mercilessly mocked for missing the point -- and a typo. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/251 "2019-04-18T21:39:51Z")
As an unexpected bonus, Mayor Pete is also fluent in binary: > **[Pete Buttigieg Stuns Campaign Crowd By Speaking To Manufacturing Robots In...](https://www.theonion.com/pete-buttigieg-stuns-campaign-crowd-by-speaking-to-manu-1834117054)** > > DES MOINES, IA—Revealing that he taught himself the language after developing an interest in computer science and artificial intelligence, Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg stunned a campaign crowd Wednesday by speaking to... “Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg stunned a campaign crowd Wednesday by speaking to manufacturing robots in fluent binary.” ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/252 "2019-04-18T21:51:00Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > That’s not uncommon, Ruth Davidson warmed up for Theresa May and spoke for all of 5 minutes. I suppose it reflects upon the respective lengths of campaigns: you take 2 years; we take 4-6 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/253 "2019-04-18T23:43:27Z")
> [@SOJA](#): > > Because we have laws in our country of how many occupants may be in a building like that at any one time. You’re questioning pushing and shoving by guests who want to be inside. The problem is out of his hands and in the hands of the fire marshal. > > As for his chances, it’s really Biden, Bernie and him. When the “Bernie Bros” are slandering him at any chance, there’s a reason to it. It’s still too early to tell, but individuals like Harris, Warren, Booker, et al. aren’t even being mentioned anymore. O’Rouke may have his thunder stolen. [Never mind policy, what kind of socks do I like? By Pete Buttigieg](http://nymag.com/strategist/article/mayor-pete-buttigieg-favorite-things.html?utm_source=nym&utm_medium=f1&utm_campaign=feed-part) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/254 "2019-04-19T00:11:48Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > Yeah, a real asset for not changing much of the status quo. Well, that’s good. I only want the status quo changed a little bit. What do you want changed that Pete Buttigie won’t be on board with? ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/255 "2019-04-19T00:13:06Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Well, that’s good. I only want the status quo changed a little bit. Good for you, I don’t, I want it changed alot. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/256 "2019-04-19T00:16:13Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > Good for you, I don’t, I want it changed alot. Like what? You live in the UK, right? What do you expect from the next American president? ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/257 "2019-04-19T00:37:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Like what? You live in the UK, right? What do you expect from the next American president? My moms American, and I have family in the US, it affects me a great deal. I expect the next President to provide free healthcare, and break the stranglehold big business has on the American workers neck. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/258 "2019-04-19T00:49:51Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > My moms American, and I have family in the US, it affects me a great deal. I expect the next President to provide free healthcare, and break the stranglehold big business has on the American workers neck. The President isn’t really in charge of that though. Even though it’s nicknamed Obamacare, the ACA is a Congress creation. The President can only advocate or throw monkey wrenches. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/259 "2019-04-19T01:02:44Z")
> [@](#): > > The President isn’t really in charge of that though. Even though it’s nicknamed Obamacare, the ACA is a Congress creation. The President can only advocate or throw monkey wrenches. I don’t care, the President sets the tone and the direction of the narrative. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/260 "2019-04-19T01:18:24Z")
There’s no such thing as “free” healthcare, or tuition either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032.md?page=14)