# Who is Pete Buttigieg?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 12, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032 "2019-03-12T21:59:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/281 "2019-04-23T14:14:03Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I will admit to some irritation at some of my Democratic friends who are convinced that the Dems must put forward a white male candidate (usually Bernie or Beto) and that nominating Pete or one of the female or other minority candidates would only be for the purpose of “making a statement”. …

I am always amused at the notion that nominating a woman, a person of color, or a gay man is somehow playing “identity politics,” but nominating a straight white man somehow…isn’t. I don’t know enough about the O’Rourke campaign to know whether that’s a theme in it, but it certainly is a theme in Sanders’s campaign. I guess “straight white man” is not an “identity,” but the default. Even after all this time…“It’s taking longer than we thought”

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/282 "2019-04-23T14:20:05Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> > [Never mind policy, what kind of socks do I like? By Pete Buttigieg](http://nymag.com/strategist/article/mayor-pete-buttigieg-favorite-things.html?utm_source=nym&utm_medium=f1&utm_campaign=feed-part)
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> You seem to be implying that Pete deliberately avoided discussing his policies in an article whose purpose was entirely “A List of Things I Like”. People seem to like those articles. No one is suggesting they are anything other than fluff pieces.

Not sure who is getting whooshed (maybe it’s me), but it’s worth noting the publication date of the article.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/283 "2019-04-23T17:00:36Z")

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Whoa. Nate Silver says today that he currently sees Buttigieg as one of the top four contenders, tied with Bernie on a rung just below Biden and Harris.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/284 "2019-04-23T17:19:21Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Whoa. Nate Silver says today that he currently sees Buttigieg as one of the top four contenders, tied with Bernie on a rung just below Biden and Harris.

Is it based on anything other than he’s currently polling top 4?

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/285 "2019-04-23T18:36:41Z")

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No, I think it’s just his subjective assessment of where things stand. It wasn’t based on any mathematical model or anything.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/286 "2019-04-23T18:58:16Z")

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Franklin Graham throws a Bible quote at Pete that calls for gays to be killed.

> **[Franklin Graham Cites Death-to-Gays Verse On Buttigieg](https://politicalwire.com/2019/04/20/franklin-graham-cites-death-to-gays-verse-in-buttigieg-post/)**
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> Evangelist Franklin Graham wrote a Facebook post which denounced people heckling Pete Buttigieg at a campaign event, but also managed to work in a verse from the Bible that condemns gay people to death.Graham suggested Buttigieg cannot be both gay...

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/287 "2019-04-23T20:29:30Z")

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> Gyrate  
> You seem to be implying that Pete deliberately avoided discussing his policies in an article whose purpose was entirely “A List of Things I Like”. People seem to like those articles. No one is suggesting they are anything other than fluff pieces.

I’m not suggesting it, I’m openly saying it. He’s a fluff piece kind of politician.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/288 "2019-04-23T21:29:48Z")

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I trust Nate Silver’s analysis of data. But I don’t trust his gut, any more than I trust my own. Remember, his gut assessment was that Trump’s chances were almost nil.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/289 "2019-04-23T21:50:00Z")

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Mayor Pete is going to do a town hall apperance on Faux. While it burns me to see anyone legitimize the propaganda channel, perhaps he’ll turn a few Faux viewers to the light.

> **[Buttigieg to appear on Fox News town hall in May](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/440201-buttigieg-to-appear-on-fox-news-town-hall-in-may/)**
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> Fox News announced Tuesday that it will host a town hall with 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg on May 19.The live event will take place in Claremont, N.H., at 7 …

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/290 "2019-04-23T22:02:25Z")

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[The Onion weighs in.](https://politics.theonion.com/pete-buttigieg-releases-comprehensive-list-of-fun-perso-1834246627?utm_content=Main&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=SF&fbclid=IwAR16gBdLWP_WwgypH9IvQJ4UpgWZwNV1C1NnSPFTNz0ptbfqCoFHkIOK83w)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/291 "2019-04-23T22:19:36Z")

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Oh millennials.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/292 "2019-04-24T01:19:11Z")

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The guy is a great guy, excellent politician, and a solid American who understands politics.

That being said, he is THE BEST Vice-Presidential candidate.

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**Author:** ![betonbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@betonbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betonbill)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/293 "2019-04-24T03:46:41Z")

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Oooh, can’t you just see him and Pence in a VP debate?

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**Author:** ![zuer-coli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ba9def/32.png) [@zuer-coli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuer-coli)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/294 "2019-04-24T04:42:40Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> How?
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> Near as I can tell, Pence became VP in January of ‘17 after he was a Governor from January of ‘13 to January of ‘17, after he was a Congressman from January of ‘01 to January of ‘13. Near as I can tell, Buttigieg was a teen who was still in college in January of ‘01; isn’t Pence ahead even _without_ Trump’s years as president?

I was only repeating what Mayor Buttigieg said himself.

Pence, as you say, has two years in the US Congress, two years as Governor and two years, four months as VP, for a total of six years and four months. Here is a link to Pence’s Wikipedia page: [Mike Pence - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pence)

Mayor Buttigieg became Mayor in January 2012, [Indiana will be holding elections for Municipal offices in November 2019.] So at the end of April that will be seven years and four months. Now, since we are talking about experience in an elected office, I will subtract the seven months Mayor  
Buttigieg spent in Afganistan, leaving six years and nine months. Leaving some five months difference. Here is a link to Buttigieg’s Wikipedia page: [Pete Buttigieg - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg)

I will allow that five months may be a difference without a distinction.

Respectfully yours Zuer-coli

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**Author:** ![zuer-coli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ba9def/32.png) [@zuer-coli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuer-coli)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/295 "2019-04-24T04:53:54Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I can’t find the quote, but Beto gave a positive and supportive response to Pete’s announcement - and Mayor of Austin Steve Adler choosing to endorse fellow mayor Pete rather than fellow Texan Beto. Mind you, it was probably said through gritted teeth but that’s politics for you.

I was there and if Mayor Adler was gritting his teeth, he did a remarkably convincing job of concealing it.

Respectfully yours Zuer-coli

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/296 "2019-04-24T05:49:00Z")

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I think it was Beto who is alleged to have been gritting his teeth.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/297 "2019-04-24T05:59:54Z")

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> [@zuer-coli](#):
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> I was only repeating what Mayor Buttigieg said himself.
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> Pence, as you say, has two years in the US Congress, two years as Governor and two years, four months as VP, for a total of six years and four months. Here is a link to Pence’s Wikipedia page: [Mike Pence - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pence)

Your link says Pence has _twelve_ years, not two, in the US Congress.

[EDITED TO ADD: and it says you’re wrong, though _closer,_ on his years as Governor.]

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/298 "2019-04-24T06:00:42Z")

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Give the guy credit: unlike Bernie, Pete knows better than to advocate giving the vote to the Boston Bomber. FFS, it’s almost like Bernie’s whole candidacy is some kind of Borat-style prank. :smack:

> **[Bernie Sanders says felons, even Boston Marathon bomber, should have right to...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/04/23/bernie-sanders-voting-rights-boston-marathon-bomber-buttigieg-harris/3548232002/)**
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> Bernie Sanders offered his stance at a CNN town hall Monday when asked whether he thought felons should be allowed to vote while they’re incarcerated.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/299 "2019-04-24T06:34:54Z")

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I agree with Bernie. Voting rights need to be aggressively protected. Given the massive racial inequalities in our justice system, felon disenfranchisement can only be viewed as an instrument of white supremacy.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-pete-buttigieg/831032/300 "2019-04-24T14:15:34Z")

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It’s not a matter of giving voting rights to that one specific individual. It’s a matter of giving them to a whole category of people, that happens to include that one individual.

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