# Who is right (me and my friend arguing over birds) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 13, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637 "2010-09-13T18:48:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/1 "2010-09-13T18:48:41Z")
My friend and I founded a city but don’t know who should rule it and give his name to it. So we stood on opposite hills and waited for the gods to give us a sign. And my friend saw 6 vultures first, and then I saw 12 vultures. My friend says he should rule, because he saw them first, but I say I should, because I saw more birds. What is more important: the time, or the number of birds? ---
**Author:** ![Caveat\_lector\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@Caveat\_lector\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caveat_lector_1)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/2 "2010-09-13T18:55:07Z")
Vultures? You saw vultures? That is obviously a sign you both will die horrible painful deaths. The only real question is who’s will be worse. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/3 "2010-09-13T18:56:55Z")
\*whose ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/4 "2010-09-13T18:57:11Z")
Clarification needed - were the six vultures in the hand, and the twelve vultures in the bush? Because then it’s technically a tie. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/5 "2010-09-13T19:01:52Z")
The gods are trying to tell you that you should found your own cities; each on your respective hills. The people of your cities will be rivals and occasionally wage war on one another. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Caveat\_lector\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@Caveat\_lector\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caveat_lector_1)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/6 "2010-09-13T19:03:59Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > \*whose I had that originally and I know better, but it just didn’t look right. Just like that time I spent a day writing my number lines backwards. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/7 "2010-09-13T19:06:46Z")
The Gods would like for you to get honest. Your intention is not to rule but to pillage the corpse of the Kingdom. Their recommendation is that you shoudl let you friend think he is winning, as he’ll run through willy nilly, grab about a third of the available loot, and take off for foreign lands. This leaves you with time to thoughtfully and systematically gather the remaining two thirds of the available good s and chattels. You are both despicable. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/8 "2010-09-13T19:08:13Z")
The vultures seem to think that you smell twice as much like dead meat than your friend. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/9 "2010-09-13T19:18:48Z")
Could go either way, so…arm wrestling contest. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/10 "2010-09-13T19:22:16Z")
> [@](#): > > Jebediah Springfield: People, our search is over! On this site we shall build a new town where we can worship freely, govern justly, and grow vast fields of hemp for making rope and blankets. > Shelbyville Manhattan: Yes! And marry our cousins. > Jebediah Springfield: I was- wha… what are you talking about, Shelbyville? Why would we want to marry our cousins? > Shelbyville Manhattan: Because they’re so attractive. I… I thought that was the whole point of this journey. > Jebediah Springfield: Absolutely not! > Shelbyville Manhattan: I tell you, I won’t live in a town that robs men of the right to marry their cousins! * * * ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/11 "2010-09-13T19:25:29Z")
I thought you and your friend were the same person. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/12 "2010-09-13T20:20:56Z")
The Gods obviously want you two to stop being so egotistical and name your city Vulturopolis. ---
**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/13 "2010-09-14T00:05:50Z")
Were they circling overhead, or roosting and doing their mighty impressive wing display in the morning? Did y’all watch the vultures and see what their habits were? Where they landed and what they did… Not numbers, but action and observation of what any signifying symbol does. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/14 "2010-09-14T10:50:45Z")
How many laser discs were they carrying? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/15 "2010-09-14T11:02:09Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > I thought you and your friend were the same person. He’ll answer that right after Fight Club. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/16 "2010-09-14T11:05:45Z")
> [@Ximenean](#): > > Clarification needed - were the six vultures in the hand, and the twelve vultures in the bush? Because then it’s technically a tie. It’s an omen. You should buy car insurance from GEICO immediately! ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/17 "2010-09-14T11:22:34Z")
Were they the talking vultures from The Jungle Book? Because _that_ would truly be extraordinary. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/18 "2010-09-14T11:29:36Z")
I’m voting for your friend. I’ve always liked him more. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/19 "2010-09-14T14:33:24Z")
So, PSXer had discovered Marijuana. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637/20 "2010-09-15T16:47:27Z")
Were any of your twelve vultures part of the original six? Consider carefully before you respond. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-right-me-and-my-friend-arguing-over-birds/553637.md?page=2)