# Who is sending Bombs? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454 "2018-10-24T19:31:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/361 "2018-10-27T18:53:19Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > AFAIK this is incorrect: Florida is a right to work state and employment is at the will of the employer. People can be fired for let go for no reason at all and political beliefs do not convey protected status on anyone. No, she meant she _couldn’t_ as in “because I’m a decent human being.” I understand that’s hard to comprehend in these dark times, but some people do good stuff regardless of laws forcing them to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/362 "2018-10-27T20:27:44Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > That is the métier of the poster in question Perhaps you should have followed the link I gave in post [#333](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21289581&postcount=333). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/363 "2018-10-27T21:15:37Z")
> [@choie](#): > > No, she meant she _couldn’t_ as in “because I’m a decent human being.” I understand that’s hard to comprehend in these dark times, but some people do good stuff regardless of laws forcing them to do so. If you watched the interview that was what she meant. The interviewer was a little dumbfounded and amazed. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/364 "2018-10-27T21:40:45Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > how British politics are so much more civil and respectful, willfully blind to people like Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson. Thank you for demonstrating your mendacious ignorance. Unlike Trump, I don’t believe either Farage or Johnson have advocated electoral violence. (I presume Johnson agrees with British military interventions overseas.) ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/365 "2018-10-28T00:12:19Z")
> [@Modesty\_Blaise](#): > > THIS is what keeps me up at night - even when Trump is gone, his cult will live on. For how long? It’s fucking scary. Those people aren’t going away when Trump is gone, and I don’t mean the conspiracy nutters on YouTube and 4chan; I mean the Republicans who have learned to follow the “Trump Model” of electability. He has changed the political landscape in terms of what is acceptable to say in campaign ads, rallies, and in a policy debate, and not for the better. > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The Pittsburgh guy apparently hates Trump for not being racist and anti-Semitic enough according to his social media. Trump has to walk a fine line between neo-Nazis who hate Jews and fundie apocalypters who like the Jews because they are going to bring on the dispensationalist Rapture. > [@AnalogSignal](#): > > The loss of a Nazi vote, which is the core of his base, has got to be deeply disappointing for Trump. Before the midterms, he needs to make some adjustments: > [ul] > [li]Amp up his nationalist rhetoric [/li][li]Relentlessly attack Soros and other globalists (i.e., Jews) for the country’s problems[/li][li]Demote Kushner to coffeeboy status[/li][/ul] Kushner is crucial to…I’m sorry, I just can’t type it with a straight face. Jared Kushner is absolutely disposable. He’s Ivanka/Barbie’s vanilla boy toy. > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I saw that interview too and my blood was boiling. She went on to say that she was utterly shocked to find out it was he who did it. Really? No clues there for you? I was actually slightly concerned that it might have been a previous employee that I managed, and was relieved to find out that he was from Florida, which just proves that potential nutcases range from coast to coast. > [@Quartz](#): > > Thank you for demonstrating your mendacious ignorance. Unlike Trump, I don’t believe either Farage or Johnson have advocated electoral violence. (I presume Johnson agrees with British military interventions overseas.) Oooooh, “mendacious”. I see you’ve purchased a thesaurus, or at least discovered [Thesuarus.com](http://Thesuarus.com). Meanwhile, you’ve managed to ignore the thrust of the observation regarding your proclivities, which is exactly the point. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/366 "2018-10-28T02:44:49Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > NO, they aren’t; not by any stretch is the number of people saying things or the distribution of the same through the media at all equivalent. It’s not even close. Nor do the level of influence compare at all. You’re comparing one anonymous internet poster to hundreds or right wing talking heads and elected officials that are on Fox all day every day. > > Shove your false equivalences up your ass. Don’t respond, don’t even acknowledge false equivalency. The opposition must be overpowered. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/367 "2018-10-28T02:46:02Z")
Centrists, independents, moderates…what do you want your country to be? Sorry, but this time, you have to pick a side. There is no center. Failure to understand that means the death of your country. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/368 "2018-10-28T03:06:16Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > If you watched the interview that was what she meant. The interviewer was a little dumbfounded and amazed. Yup: > [@choie](#): > > The CNN host who first interviewed her (don’t remember her name, she was a sub for Erin Burnett) was, no pun intended, blown away by how generous this woman was, as were the people sitting around the panel. Just remembered the anchors’ name–it was Kate Baldwin. She was literally speechless at the owner’s ability to separate a man’s revolting politics from his behavior toward her and her customers, which is what mattered to her. All she asked was that he do his job at night, so no one would see his van. (Honestly if I had one objection toward her in maintaining him as an employee, it’s that she had been inside his van and knew how dirty it was–I’m pretty sure she mentioned the stench. Seems to me you wouldn’t want someone delivering your food in something that unhygienic.) ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/369 "2018-10-28T15:32:37Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > AFAIK this is incorrect: Florida is a right to work state and employment is at the will of the employer. People can be fired for let go for no reason at all and political beliefs do not convey protected status on anyone. I think political beliefs should be a protected category. Even people with vile views deserve to be able to earn a livelihood, as long as it doesn’t impact how they do the job while on the clock. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/370 "2018-10-28T15:35:03Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > I think political beliefs should be a protected category. Even people with vile views deserve to be able to earn a livelihood, as long as it doesn’t impact how they do the job while on the clock. Right, god forbid a nazi see some consequences for being a fucking Nazi. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/371 "2018-10-28T16:55:13Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Oooooh, “mendacious”. I see you’ve purchased a thesaurus, or at least discovered [Thesuarus.com](http://Thesuarus.com). Actually, I have a copy of the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, and if you’d bothered to check, I first mentioned it in [2014](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17539749&highlight=shorter#post17539749). But you insist on attacking the poster and not the argument. Well, you just keep spouting your stuff and deluding yourself and watch the Republicans and Trump win. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/372 "2018-10-28T17:06:09Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Well, you just keep spouting your stuff and deluding yourself and watch the Republicans and Trump win. You have a plentiful lack of wit. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/373 "2018-10-28T17:31:47Z")
> [@choie](#): > > That owner is a lesbian, as she repeated multiple times, who made the accurate point that she couldn’t fire him because of his beliefs when he was doing his job and,\* as far as she knew\*, not harming anyone. Well, since he’s gone on to harm plenty of people in a colossally shameful and fucked way, I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest she reevaluate her discernment skills going forward. > [@Debra Gureghian](#): > > …he was anti-gay, anti-black, anti-Jewish, you name it. Everybody, ahh, that really wasn’t white and wasn’t a white supremacist didn’t belong in the world. **That’s what he used to say to me all the time.** A motherfucker who works for me would not be telling “me all the time” that me and people like me don’t belong in the world. Sorry, but no one who thinks nothing of saying this to their lesbian boss deserves a job. I could _maybe_ see letting him off with a warning the first time this genocidal garbage came out of his mouth, but repeated “all the time” instances? Fuck no. > [@choie](#): > > No, she meant she couldn’t as in “because I’m a decent human being.” I understand that’s hard to comprehend in these dark times, but some people do good stuff regardless of laws forcing them to do so. Why are you characterizing her actions as “good” and “decent” instead of what they were? Which is naive and fucking stupid? An employer would be morally justified in firing a guy like him because someone who is extreme enough to advertise to his boss that he hates everyone who isn’t white and straight is liable to do some shit (like send bombs to people, maybe). I guess she wanted to give him a chance to do some shit first before firing him, but a competent boss would know that hate speech in the workplace is actually shit that is a firable offense by itself. What decent human beings do is look at more than whether a employee’s labor measures up to their paycheck. Your praise of this women is an insult to those who would correctly see this guy as risk not worth inflicting on their customers and employees. ---
**Author:** ![HelenTroy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helentroy/32/86_2.png) [@HelenTroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenTroy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/374 "2018-10-28T17:52:28Z")
> [@choie](#): > > No, she meant she _couldn’t_ as in “because I’m a decent human being.” I understand that’s hard to comprehend in these dark times, but some people do good stuff regardless of laws forcing them to do so. You consider it decency to enable a bigot so dedicated to their beliefs they’ll tell the person who pays them they are going to burn in hell? This is some grade A bullshit right here. This is why the hateful can continue to bleed this country; few step up to tell them to shut the fuck up and then ostracize them. ---
**Author:** ![HelenTroy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helentroy/32/86_2.png) [@HelenTroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenTroy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/375 "2018-10-28T17:55:07Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > I think political beliefs should be a protected category. Even people with vile views deserve to be able to earn a livelihood, as long as it doesn’t impact how they do the job while on the clock. When we relegate the level of hate this man displayed as “political beliefs” then we are truly done, morally. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/376 "2018-10-28T18:12:49Z")
More from [Gureghian](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/26/who-is-cesar-altieri-sayoc-what-we-know-about-suspected-mail-bomber-arrested-florida/?utm_term=.a965b1577413): > [@](#): > > Gureghian, the general manager of New River Pizza and Fresh Kitchen, said that Sayoc worked as a delivery-truck driver for several months but quit in January. **The white van he drove to deliver pizzas was covered in disturbing images** , she said, so the restaurant required him to park it on the side where it could not be seen. > > **“It was puppets with their heads cut off, mannequins with their heads cut off, Ku Klux Klan, a black person being hung, anti-gay symbols, torchings, bombings, you name it, it was all over his truck,” Gureghian said.** > Sayoc was kept on because he did his work reliably and good drivers are hard to find, she said. **But he disturbed his co-workers with racist comments and texts, she said.** So the guy was not only allowed to drive around as a representative of the restaurant with effigies of lynched black folks and whatnot decorating his van, but his coworkers we’re also expected to just deal with his hate speech because money. Nothing defensible about any of this, let alone laudable. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/377 "2018-10-28T18:51:37Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Right, god forbid a nazi see some consequences for being a fucking Nazi. In not just thinking about Nazis here. I’m thinking about anyone with beliefs outside the mainstream. Like someone from Democratic Socialists of America working for a Right-Wing employer. I’d be willing to protect bigots if it meant my side is being protected as well. ---
**Author:** ![HelenTroy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helentroy/32/86_2.png) [@HelenTroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenTroy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/378 "2018-10-28T18:55:08Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > In not just thinking about Nazis here. I’m thinking about anyone with beliefs outside the mainstream. Like someone from Democratic Socialists of America working for a Right-Wing employer. I’d be willing to protect bigots if it meant my side is being protected as well. False equivalency is the new norm. “BOTH SIDES! BOTH SIDES!” He screams into the night as one side spends an entire week committing acts of domestic terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/379 "2018-10-28T19:02:09Z")
> [@HelenTroy](#): > > False equivalency is the new norm. > > “BOTH SIDES! BOTH SIDES!” He screams into the night as one side spends an entire week committing acts of domestic terrorism. Being fired can really screw up a persons life. If they can’t find another job on time, they could end up on the streets. I think that’s too severe of a penalty for merely having a repugnant belief. Keep in my that most people with repugnant beliefs like White Supremacy don’t act on those beliefs in a violent manner. ---
**Author:** ![HelenTroy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helentroy/32/86_2.png) [@HelenTroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenTroy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/380 "2018-10-28T19:06:48Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > Being fired can really screw up a persons life. If they can’t find another job on time, they could end up on the streets. I think that’s too severe of a penalty for merely having a repugnant belief. Keep in my that most people with repugnant beliefs like White Supremacy don’t act on those beliefs in a violent manner. Spouting those beliefs at your co-workers who are part of that minority group IS acting on your beliefs. “Jews are vermin!” “Well, Suzie was last week talking about how she’d like universal health care, so we can’t discipline that deplorable racist because it might show bias. Besides, we wouldn’t want him to suffer any negative consequences to his hate and fear-mongering.” You sound ridiculous and you should feel badly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454.md?page=20)