# Who is sending Bombs? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454 "2018-10-24T19:31:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/41 "2018-10-24T23:27:13Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Wow. Okay, I get that you are not a Trump fan. That’s fine. Not a problem. > > But where do you get the idea that Trump, Clinton, Ryan, Pelosi or anyone would not be opposed to what happened today? > > I mean, do you and others on your side truly believe that Trump is that cartoonishly evil? He’s cheered and praised violence against journalists and progressives many times before, so it shouldn’t be surprising if some of us are skeptical that he actually cares to oppose violence against journalists and progressives. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/42 "2018-10-24T23:28:48Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > My estimations are colored by my sincere belief that there orders of magnitude more psychotic Trump supporters than there are psychotic Trump haters. My thought is that there are crazy whackaloons all over the place, and no matter if this turns out to be a Trump supporter, a Trump opponent, Al Qaeda, or some random nut, it is unfortunate and should not be taken as the view of an entire political party. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/43 "2018-10-24T23:30:10Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > I would bet it is a false flag. From the right. They are as predictable as 5 year olds. I think it’s a little too convoluted for the right wing to set up a false flag operation pointed at the right wing. Let’s face it; the audience they’re aiming this at isn’t great at following a complex narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/44 "2018-10-24T23:30:26Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > My thought is that there are crazy whackaloons all over the place, and no matter if this turns out to be a Trump supporter, a Trump opponent, Al Qaeda, or some random nut, it is unfortunate and should not be taken as the view of an entire political party. Depends. If this turns out to be the Proud Boys, I’ve got no problem lumping their hero in with them. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/45 "2018-10-24T23:37:43Z")
Both Russia and the republicans are anti democratic at this moment. Republicans and the RW have a “Projection” pattern. When they accuse it is always about their own actions. All chaos helps and is supported by anti democratic forces: The russians for geo political reasons, and the Rs for venal reasons. It distracts from the actual bleaching of democratic processes. If there is any argument that the dems did it, and it increases anti democracy then that is perfectly good enough reason to believe that the right could do it and blame them. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/46 "2018-10-24T23:40:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He’s cheered and praised violence against journalists and progressives many times before, so it shouldn’t be surprising if some of us are skeptical that he actually cares to oppose violence against journalists and progressives. I hesitate to ask what you are referring to, but if it is simply about how he said that protesters should be roughed up a little bit before being thrown out, that is orders and orders of magnitude less than mailing pipe bombs to people. Cite that Trump has implied anything close to that? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/47 "2018-10-24T23:50:01Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > My thought is that there are crazy whackaloons all over the place, and no matter if this turns out to be a Trump supporter, a Trump opponent, Al Qaeda, or some random nut, it is unfortunate and should not be taken as the view of an entire political party. as his supporters yell “LOCK HER UP”. Two years after the election. Trump encourages his supporters to use violence. You gonna run with that? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/48 "2018-10-24T23:53:18Z")
even “lock her up” is a LONG ways away from “send her a pipe bomb”. You get that, right? ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/49 "2018-10-24T23:55:29Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > even “lock her up” is a LONG ways away from “send her a pipe bomb”. You get that, right? Putting kids in concentration camps isn’t that much different in magnitude, though. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/50 "2018-10-24T23:56:21Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I hesitate to ask what you are referring to, but if it is simply about how he said that protesters should be roughed up a little bit before being thrown out, that is orders and orders of magnitude less than mailing pipe bombs to people. Cite that Trump has implied anything close to that? Second Amendment solutions anyone? - eta - You get that right? Bueller? Bueller? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/51 "2018-10-25T00:00:18Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I hesitate to ask what you are referring to, but if it is simply about how he said that protesters should be roughed up a little bit before being thrown out, that is orders and orders of magnitude less than mailing pipe bombs to people. So what? How does that affect my point? It’s a fact that he’s advocated for violence against progressives, and praised and celebrated violence against a journalist. With those facts in mind, it’s reasonable to believe that he doesn’t actually care about opposing violence against progressives and journalists. I’m sure that, politically, he recognizes that he needs to be seen as speaking out against bombings. But considering that he’s praised and celebrated violence against progressives and journalists, why isn’t it reasonable to believe that he’s, at best, indifferent to violence against progressives and journalists? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/52 "2018-10-25T00:11:19Z")
with 320 million people now in the US I am a bit surprised this does not happen more often. I guess there are not more cases since you have to be nuts and have technical skill. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/53 "2018-10-25T00:19:29Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > with 320 million people now in the US I am a bit surprised this does not happen more often. I guess there are not more cases since you have to be nuts and have technical skill. Trump has emboldened the nuts. And just about anyone with an internet connection can make a bomb. Or build a house which is what I would prefer. We don’t know who sent these devices. Or really even why. We do know that trump encourages violence. Why? I suspect it’s a power trip, and a hope that as long as he stays in office, he stays out of prison. And of course, he’s a fucking moron that just want’s applause. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/54 "2018-10-25T00:20:45Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > even “lock her up” is a LONG ways away from “send her a pipe bomb”. You get that, right? Not in the minds of numerous lunatics who infest society, and who are vulnerable to demagogues like Trump. Normal people may see some distinction, but normal people don’t chant for “locking up” someone without due process. Only a few of those may turn violent, but it only takes a few, and this is the prime breeding ground for it, and many already turned violent. Normal people aren’t incited by the kinds of rhetoric I mentioned in [#28](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21285038&postcount=28). But lunatics are, and there’s apparently a lot of them around. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/55 "2018-10-25T00:38:02Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > My guess is going to be the “Proud Boys” group. That would seem like a weird choice, given that it’s completely not their thing. Their thing is to get drunk and then beat someone up in public. It’s likely a psycho. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/56 "2018-10-25T00:40:12Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > even “lock her up” is a LONG ways away from “send her a pipe bomb”. You get that, right? No, it is not. If you set someone up as Emmanuel Goldstein, people will start throwing stuff at that person. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/57 "2018-10-25T00:47:03Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > That would seem like a weird choice, given that it’s completely not their thing. Their thing is to get drunk and then beat someone up in public. > > It’s likely a psycho. For some reason, their leader felt compelled to shove a large buttplug up his ass on a live broadcast. So can we agree they might be a little unpredictable? Sure, I have a link. No, I’m not kidding: [https://imgur.com/a/MQraN](https://imgur.com/a/MQraN) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/58 "2018-10-25T00:47:31Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > even “lock her up” is a LONG ways away from “send her a pipe bomb”. You get that, right? Trump recommended [second amendment solutions](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html) to his political adversaries. Seeing as how “bear arms” apparently means any and all weapons to you second amendment folks, how exactly is sending a pipe bomb not explicitly following his directions. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/59 "2018-10-25T00:51:37Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > According to [a whole bunch of conservative types](https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/1055175217641865216), it’s a liberal ‘false flag’ operation. > > Notably: > Ann Coulter > Rush Limbaugh > Michael Savage > James Woods > Mike Flynn Jr. > Frank Gaffney > Kurt Schlichter > Candace Owens > David Horowitz > John Lott Are there any actual quotes? I had not heard the false flag argument before seeing it here. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/60 "2018-10-25T01:04:52Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Trump recommended [second amendment solutions](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html) to his political adversaries. Seeing as how “bear arms” apparently means any and all weapons to you second amendment folks, how exactly is sending a pipe bomb not explicitly following his directions. Could you, perhaps, be troubled to provide the quote that you are referring to? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454.md?page=4)