# Who is sending Bombs? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454 "2018-10-24T19:31:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/61 "2018-10-25T01:19:17Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Could you, perhaps, be troubled to provide the quote that you are referring to? [Sigh, don’t know why I bother](https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=youtube+trump+second+manedment+soulutions#id=2&vid=ff6bcada601e6cd5dbb6a68796f4dbda&action=click) ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/62 "2018-10-25T01:24:04Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Could you, perhaps, be troubled to provide the quote that you are referring to? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/EcxkkrNSv-4/hqdefault.jpg "Donald Trump on Hillary Clinton, Wilmington, NC, 8/9/16") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcxkkrNSv-4) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/63 "2018-10-25T01:46:23Z")
Trumps fingerprints could be on the bombs. He could have included DNA samples in the envelope. Does the president have a personal calling card? Include that too. His base would not care. They would applaud it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/64 "2018-10-25T02:16:55Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > [Sigh, don’t know why I bother](https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=youtube+trump+second+manedment+soulutions#id=2&vid=ff6bcada601e6cd5dbb6a68796f4dbda&action=click) I’m sure we will hear that what he actually meant when he said his followers could shoot his political adversaries is… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/65 "2018-10-25T02:22:19Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > He could have included DNA samples in the envelope. Gross. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/66 "2018-10-25T03:07:16Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I’d classify it as stochastic terrorism: you get a whole bunch of people to hate on some other particular people, and if you’re lucky, a few of the folks you’ve riled up will be sufficiently riled up to take out your targets for you. The phrase you’re looking for is, “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” Screw it. Off to the Pit for this one. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/67 "2018-10-25T03:27:09Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I hesitate to ask what you are referring to, but if it is simply about how he said that protesters should be roughed up a little bit before being thrown out, that is orders and orders of magnitude less than mailing pipe bombs to people. Cite that Trump has implied anything close to that? [A look back at Trump comments perceived by some as encouraging violence](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766). ---
**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/68 "2018-10-25T03:39:39Z")
I’m actually giving about a 10% chance that it will be found that only some of the bombs even had a chance of going off, not due to bad construction, but on purpose, most likely the ones to Maxine Waters. The others seem like they had almost no chance of getting into the hands of the addressee. The ones to Waters had a chance, or at least the potential to blow up in the hands of an assistant, rather than being stopped by security. ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/69 "2018-10-25T08:14:39Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [A look back at Trump comments perceived by some as encouraging violence](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766). Yep. Over and over. And even setting aside the actual incitement to violence, it’s a constant drumbeat of the theme that these people are criminals, liars, enemies that must be destroyed. And Trump’s personal comments are just the tip of a thirty-year campaign of hatred and demonization in which liberals are blatantly called traitors, “demonrats,” pedophiles, satanists, mass murderers, and every things else under the sun. The other day I read a book that explicitly claimed liberalism would cause the destruction of Western civilization. Over and over and over I’ve heard people claim Hillary is a literal murderer. But they won’t acknowledge it. They’ve got everything from talk radio to 24-hour news spewing the most hateful lies and threats, of which Trump himself is merely the most recent imitator, over the course of almost thirty years. And they won’t even acknowledge it. You can call someone a traitor and a murderer and a pedophile and a demon, but because you didn’t literally use the word “pipe bomb,” you are totally innocent and blameless and can’t comprehend how anyone could have interpreted it that way. And - of course - it’s the Democrats who are being so hateful and divisive. This is what we mean when we say Republicans refuse to acknowledge factual reality. Fuck these people. Fuck them all. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/70 "2018-10-25T08:17:23Z")
There’s no way simple words or exhortations could convince anyone one to take violent actions like this. Well there was that whole pizzagate shooter thing ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/71 "2018-10-25T08:28:02Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > There’s no way simple words or exhortations could convince anyone one to take violent actions like this. > > Well there was that whole pizzagate shooter thing Yep, won’t acknowledge that, either. Over and over and over I’ve cited that as an example of conspiracy theories and depraved hatred culminating in violence. Trump’s multiple scams, endless lies, threats and incitement to violence, praise for Russia, attacks on the media and democracy itself… none of that even warrants mention or acknowledgement. If Trump says one thing on Monday and something different on Tuesday, they’ll refuse to even admit that it happened. But HOLY SHIT these people turn into Sherlock goddamned Holmes when it comes to reading Hillary’s email. Everything is a code, everything means something else, and by god they are just cryptological geniuses when it comes to picking apart every little thing she ever said until a man becomes so enraged he attacks innocent people with a gun. And you know how many people I’ve met that will actually acknowledge it even happened? Zero. Not one. They’ll call me a stupid libtard snowflake cuck, and they’ll say I’m hateful and evil and a liar. But not for one second will they admit that any of these things actually took place. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/72 "2018-10-25T09:33:48Z")
[If it’s a false flag operation, it was an extremely sophisticated one](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/explosive-device-sent-cnn-featured-parody-isis-flag-get-er-n924166): > [@](#): > > A senior law enforcement official said that the image contained on the Brennan device that appears to be an ISIS flag is in fact a mocking parody of it. The official confirmed that the words “Get Er Done” were on the device. > > The “Get ‘Er Done” flag was originally created in 2014 by the right-wing parody site World News Bureau, for an article titled “ISIS Vows Retribution For Counterfeit Flags.” It has since been shared as a meme on right-wing websites and forums. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/73 "2018-10-25T09:43:14Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Are there any actual quotes? I had not heard the false flag argument before seeing it here. It was all _over_ the fucking place yesterday. Hell, it had its own hashtag already. The fellow I linked to wasn’t some random yahoo on Twitter, but a senior reporter for the Guardian’s US operation. I’m sure you can find actual quotes if you want them. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/74 "2018-10-25T09:59:58Z")
> [@](#): > > …Limbaugh added that none of the bombs went off before suggesting, also without evidence, that a “Democrat operative” was attempting to create the appearance that there "are mobs everywhere… [https://thehill.com/homenews/media/412969-limbaugh-on-bomb-threats-to-democrats-republicans-just-dont-do-this-kind-of](https://thehill.com/homenews/media/412969-limbaugh-on-bomb-threats-to-democrats-republicans-just-dont-do-this-kind-of) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/75 "2018-10-25T11:10:36Z")
What gets me is the right wing way to deal with it is this false flag argument. When I looked up #MAGAgate on Twitter, every conservative was trying to either blame it on the liberals or chastise them for “jumping the gun” despite all the targets being Trump’s liberal boogeymen. Not a single conservative saying something like “Whoever this is, they do not speak for me or my fellow conservatives. This is awful.” Even if they threw that in with denouncing liberals for pretending it does represent the GOP position, I’d be okay with it. But, nope. I’m sure officials did that, but I’m worried about the populace. Sure, you can say those people are the loudest, but they only get to the top through being the most popular. I only hope there were other, decent people who just didn’t use the tag. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/76 "2018-10-25T12:53:30Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > For some reason, their leader felt compelled to shove a large buttplug up his ass on a live broadcast. So can we agree they might be a little unpredictable? > > Sure, I have a link. No, I’m not kidding: > > [https://imgur.com/a/MQraN](https://imgur.com/a/MQraN) Well, yes, Gavin McInnes is a despicable troll. But gaining public attention is very, very predictably his thing. Anonymous bombs is very much not. His entire thing is being a troll so he can make money from his idiot followers, and their entire thing is being trolls to make themselves feel better about being losers. I know the Proud Boys and this right wing bombing campaign are both in the news, but that doesn’t mean they’re the same thing. It’s a right wing asshole, very probably acting alone, who’s off his nut like the pizza shooter. The genius of Donald Trump and his Trumpists in the media is that they can stir up violence without having to tell a specific person to be violent. Stochastic terrorism, as it’s called if you know your math terms; Trump doesn’t have to tell one person to get violent, he just has to say violence is okay and of the millions of Trumpists, a few will act violently. Just wait. Trumpists are going to show up at the polls on election day with guns, looking to chase off Black and Hispanic people. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/77 "2018-10-25T14:06:01Z")
Meanwhile, Donald being Donald, Trump is blaming the media for yesterday’s wave of mail bombs: > **[After playing nice for one afternoon, Trump wakes to blame the media for...](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/25/18022154/trump-blames-media-tweet)** > > "Mainstream media must clean up its act, FAST" ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/78 "2018-10-25T14:10:18Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > a McVeigh type and probably from a place like northern Idaho where many of those people tend to live. Calling it “northern Idaho” puts us over the top. It’s “North Idaho”. Seriously, that’s a thing: [Idaho panhandle - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_Panhandle) I wouldn’t put it past a lot of the numbnuts in these parts. MAGAts everywhere! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/79 "2018-10-25T14:12:48Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Meanwhile, Donald being Donald, Trump is blaming the media for yesterday’s wave of mail bombs: > > [Trump tweet blames media for bombing - Vox](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/25/18022154/trump-blames-media-tweet) What a fucking moron! ---
**Author:** ![Modesty\_Blaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Modesty\_Blaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Modesty_Blaise)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454/80 "2018-10-25T14:13:28Z")
Because of Trump’s Narcissistic Personality Disorder, he is incapable of caring about the fallout of this or whether anyone gets hurt. It only matters how this plays _for him_ and it doesn’t hurt him, it helps him. His people \*love \*this. And \*he \*loves this. He is flattered that one of his people is so devoted that they will send bombs to the specific enemies he has named. This is my speculation, of course, but can anyone even picture him being upset that people might get hurt/killed? No, you can’t because he has proven himself to be a craven, raging, unempathetic asshole over and over and over. And he’s proven that he enjoys the misfortune of others. He and his followers are irredeemable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-sending-bombs/823454.md?page=5)