# Who is the best and worst Trump VP choice for anti-fascists?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-best-and-worst-trump-vp-choice-for-anti-fascists/1004161
**Category:** Politics & Elections
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**Created:** [July 13, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-best-and-worst-trump-vp-choice-for-anti-fascists/1004161 "2024-07-13T21:50:08Z")
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### Author: ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-best-and-worst-trump-vp-choice-for-anti-fascists/1004161/1 "2024-07-13T21:50:08Z")

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For patriots who oppose fascism and want the American experiment with democracy to endure, who are the best and worst choices that Trump could choose as his running mate?

Trump attempted a coup on January 6, 2021. He failed. Mike Pence, a Christian conservative, opposed this coup after consulting with former VP Dan Quayle. To define terms, fascism is a variety of authoritarianism that scapegoats certain minority groups: in the current incarnation the vilified minority are undocumented workers.

A patriotic VP with spine would support US democracy without apology. A fascist VP would cheer on attempts to thwart US democracy. A milquetoast VP would keep their head down and try to walk a fine line between the 2 positions.

Trump won’t knowingly appoint a VP with spine or a surplus of political courage. So the choices are between enthusiastic fascists and milquetoasts. Milquetoasts would be the preferred option.

The worst choice from an anti-fascist perspective would be JD Vance of Ohio. I can imagine him carrying on the Trump torch if the unhealthy burger munching 78 year old expires in office. The best _plausible_ choice would be anyone else.

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### Author: ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-best-and-worst-trump-vp-choice-for-anti-fascists/1004161/2 "2024-07-13T21:58:06Z")

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So is your question who would most effective at restraining trump while trump was alive, or who would best as substitute president after trump dies in office?

Two very different questions.

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### Author: ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-best-and-worst-trump-vp-choice-for-anti-fascists/1004161/3 "2024-07-13T21:58:58Z")

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Worst would be either Vance, Taylor-Greene or Gaetz.

Best would be Haley, Sasse or a relatively unknown senator.

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### Author: ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-best-and-worst-trump-vp-choice-for-anti-fascists/1004161/4 "2024-07-13T22:11:59Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> So is your question who would most effective at restraining trump while trump was alive, or who would best as substitute president after trump dies in office?
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> Two very different questions.

My question is who would make the best and worst choice as a VP from the perspective of someone who wants the republic to endure.

My opinion is that the Vice Presidency is worth a bucket of warm spit and that realistically no plausible candidate would do anything significant to restrain Trump. But some might cheer on his worst instincts, which would be bad. I assign most weight to the less than 50% probability that Trump dies or is removed from office.

ETA: Oh this is rich:

> [@Could Trump run without a VP nominee?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-trump-run-without-a-vp-nominee/1004150/2):
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> There’s nothing that says he has to pick one, or that he has to make his pick be part of his campaigning. But when the electoral college meets, they have to cast votes for the Vice President, and if nobody gets a majority of their votes (because the Republicans don’t have anyone to all agree on), then it goes to the Senate to pick one (which, in the current Senate, would presumably be a Democrat, which I imagine Trump wouldn’t want).

Ok, after 15 posts or so, I say we can consider choices made by a Democratic Senate, provided it’s understood that the scenario is wholly implausible.
