# Who is the Bitchiest/Most Hateful Sitcom Mom/Wife? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 13, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104 "2003-10-13T03:21:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/1 "2003-10-13T03:21:53Z")
OK, so this is actually a poll, but since it’s about TV I’m going to put it here in Café Society. So, who is the bitchiest/most hateful sitcom wife on TV? I’d like to leave out peripheral characters (such as Charlie Sheen’s mom on _Two and a Half Men_ and keep this discussion limited to lead (or almost lead) actresses. I’ve narrowed it down to two. [ul] [li] **Carrie** on _The King of Queens_. She never seems to have anything good to say to Doug, and she muddles through her life in a state of hostile exasperation. Her relationship with her father seems equally acrimonious, although she does seem to give him a _twinge_ more patience, which isn’t saying much.[/li][li] **Deb** from _Everybody Loves Raymond_. Her character was the subject of one of the funniest lines in sticom history. One of Ray’s annoying twin boys confesses to Ray that he accidentally called his teacher “Mommy.” Ray responds, “Why? Was she yelling?” [::rimshot::] Then, later in the show, Ray’s daughter overhears Ray tell Deb “…he accidentally called his teacher ‘Mommy.’” And Ray’s daughter, Allie, says, “Why? Was she yelling?” hee hee[/li][/ul] Any others? ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/2 "2003-10-13T03:32:58Z")
There’s an all-black sitcom on UPN (it’s fairly new and may have already been cancelled, forgive me for not knowing the name of it) about a man torn between his ex-wife (who has custody of their son, and she uses this as a weapon) and his new wife (whose social ambition barely stops short of monstrous). This isn’t the one Will Smith is producing; both the women pretty much qualify. ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/3 "2003-10-13T03:42:44Z")
Well, the thing is, Carrie really loves Doug and Deb loves Raymond and let’s face it, both can be real schmucks sometimes. I get your point, though. My pick would be the wife in _Unhappily Ever After_. A lot of you probably never heard of it, but it was some dopey syndicated show that starred Nikki Cox and Bobcat Goldwait as the voice of a stuffed bunny. I only saw a few eps, but the wife was nasty and mean spirited and didn’t seem to even _like_ her husband, much less love him. BTW, I loved it when Allie asked if the teacher was yelling! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/4 "2003-10-13T03:46:24Z")
Weren’t they divorced in _Unhappily…_? I never could quite figure that whole mess out. Not that I spent a lot of time on it. But I thought they were divorced, yet he lived in the basement for reasons unknown. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/5 "2003-10-13T03:52:26Z")
Peggy Bundy ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/6 "2003-10-13T04:01:05Z")
Surely George’s parents in Seinfeld win any hateful contest. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/7 "2003-10-13T04:23:37Z")
HeyHomie, you inspired me to make this pitt thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=216987](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=216987) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/8 "2003-10-13T04:41:09Z")
Lois on _Malcom in the Middle_ is a complete raving harpy. Of course, that’s part of her appeal! ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/9 "2003-10-13T05:12:59Z")
_Roseanne_ I win. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/10 "2003-10-13T06:00:23Z")
Peggy Hill is certainly the most annoying… ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/11 "2003-10-13T06:46:35Z")
Deb bitches so much that I’ve stopped watching that show, seriously. Bitch bitch bitch! She is always pissed off about something; if I were Ray I’d leave her ass. What a harpy! ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/12 "2003-10-13T07:09:46Z")
What about Endora on **Bewitched**? She’s pretty horrible to Durwood. ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/13 "2003-10-13T07:20:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rico \* > \*\*_Roseanne_ > > I win. \*\* You sure do. The creepy thing is it doesn’t appear that she acted at all on that show. **Jophiel** , I think they seperated and he moved out, then back in. I could be wrong. It was an awful show, but it aired before reruns of DS9 where I lived years ago, so I often caught the last five minutes or so. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/14 "2003-10-13T07:30:38Z")
Yep, **Roseanne** wins the biggest bitch award… (and I may be going back too far for most of you guys) and then there’s **Maude** my god what a bitch she was :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/15 "2003-10-13T07:34:31Z")
Anyone else recall this line from a husband to his wife?: * * * ## _I’m fed up with you, you rancorous coiffeured old sow. Why don’t you syringe the doughnuts out of your ears and get some sense into that dormant organ you keep hidden in that rat’s maze of yours?_ OK, that’s a quote from an old show, but the series runs constantly on PBS. Bonus points if you can ID the episode as well as the actors. (I know it’s an easy one, I just love that line) ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/16 "2003-10-13T07:37:13Z")
I could actually watch Roseanne…and enjoy the show but that goddamned **Maude** made me want to shoot the fucking TV The way she made Walter out to be a friggin worm…always screaming at someone, always pissed off about something…she and Archie B. going at it like cats and dogs. Any o’ y’all remember Bea Arthur? ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/17 "2003-10-13T07:42:08Z")
**"Fawlty Towers"** w/ Basil Fawlty (Cleese) and his wife Sybil (Prunella Scales) ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/18 "2003-10-13T07:45:12Z")
Here ya go…[Fawlty Towers](http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/F/htmlF/fawltytowers/fawltytowers.htm) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/19 "2003-10-13T08:08:50Z")
OK, you win, **t-keela** , but I’ll go you one better with an ID of the [episode](http://www.fawltysite.net/episode08.htm) in question. (I’m awake against my will right now, thanks for the chat)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/20 "2003-10-13T12:21:38Z")
Marie Barone on _Everybody Loves Raymond_. Heaven help anyone if she ever loses her own control over that family. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104.md?page=2)