# Who is the Bitchiest/Most Hateful Sitcom Mom/Wife?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 13, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104 "2003-10-13T03:21:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/21 "2003-10-13T12:41:38Z")

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Hyacinth Booo-kay from Keeping Up Appearances has got to be the bitchiest, most annoying wife ever.

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/22 "2003-10-13T13:13:55Z")

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Did you guys ever get the 1980s BBC sitcom ‘[Sorry!](http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/sorry/index.html)’ in the US? The mother in that show, Phyllis Lumsden, was bloody evil.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/23 "2003-10-13T14:08:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by t-keela \*  
> \*\*…but that goddamned **Maude** made me want to shoot the fucking TV
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> The way she made Walter out to be a friggin worm \*\*

At least Walter could shut Maude up (MAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUDE! Sit!)

They have toned back (or at least re-directed) some of Deborah’s bitchiness in the last couple of seasons on Raymond.

So I have to give the overall award (at least for U.S. television) to Roseanne.

Although if Friends were going to run any longer, Monica could easily whip all three of them.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/24 "2003-10-13T14:14:29Z")

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Livia on _The Sopranos_.

No, I win!

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**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_Coward)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/25 "2003-10-13T14:40:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Lois on _Malcom in the Middle_ is a complete raving harpy.
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> Of course, that’s part of her appeal! \*\*

Lois gets my vote, but she doesn’t appeal to me at all. Roseanne may be a huge bitch, but I just want to hit Lois over the head with a big ol “Shut the fuck up” stick when she starts screeching.

Also, I nominate Agnes Skinner from the Simpsons as a runner up.

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**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/26 "2003-10-13T14:46:47Z")

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June Cleaver. What a self-righteous, sanctimonius bitch.

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**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/27 "2003-10-13T15:22:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*Hyacinth Booo-kay from Keeping Up Appearances has got to be the bitchiest, most annoying wife ever. \*\*

Oh, thank you – I was sitting here with the name of the show on the tip of my tongue! To me, 'ol Hyacinth is 1000 times more annoying than Roseanne, and Roseanne was uber-annoying, at least to me.

As for Deb and Carrie, I can’t blame them one bit – I mean, both their husbands are schmucks at times! Wouldn’t you get exasperated?

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**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/28 "2003-10-13T16:15:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MsWhatsit \*  
> \*\*Livia on _The Sopranos_.
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> No, I win! \*\*

Considering she okayed a hit on her son, I’d say you’re right about Livia being the most hateful.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/29 "2003-10-13T16:21:11Z")

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Um, what was Niles Crane’s wife’s name?

Not Maris, but the brunette he married and then almost immediately left for Daphne, once he realized Daphne loved him? She was mean to everyone when she came over for brunch, “You are putting the dog outside while we eat, aren’t you Martin?” “Daphne, you will make my omelette with egg whites only, won’t you?” Then, so she wouldn’t be “embarrassed” getting divorced so soon after she got married, she wanted Niles to slowly turn into a creep in front of their snobby socialite friends so she could have justification.

Granted, she was somewhat screwed over after they got married, but she was a bitch at that brunch.

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**Author:** ![CloudCar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@CloudCar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CloudCar)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/30 "2003-10-13T17:17:36Z")

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How about Lillith who was Frasier’s wife on Cheers.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/31 "2003-10-13T17:29:34Z")

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**ivylass** , that was Mel.  
Do we watch the same shows, or what? 😉

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/32 "2003-10-13T18:07:29Z")

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I don’t think Lilith was bitchy or hateful.

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**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/33 "2003-10-13T18:26:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \*  
> \*\*I don’t think Lilith was bitchy or hateful. \*\*

I agree. I think she’s just one of those really smart people who don’t have a grasp on how to interact with people socially. She knows the psychology behind people, but not the emotional side.

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/34 "2003-10-13T18:52:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MsWhatsit \*  
> **Livia on _The Sopranos_.**

Fine! Just take my answer! I’ll just sit here and not type anything, _like a mute_! _sobs in self pity_

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/35 "2003-10-13T19:25:35Z")

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In defence of Debra from Everybody loves Raymond, she has a lot to deal with from her husband to her mother in law. I just think she needs a really long vacation.

I really dislike Peggy Hill though.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/36 "2003-10-13T20:25:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BiblioCat \*  
> \*\ ***ivylass** , that was Mel.  
> Do we watch the same shows, or what? 😉 \*\*

Just shows that we have good taste! 😃

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/37 "2003-10-13T20:26:37Z")

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Yeah. the Sopranos has to be the best **sitcom** of all time!

I vote for Roseanne. I think Lois from _Malcolm in the Middle_ might be worse, but there are extenuating circumstances - EVERYONE in that family is rotten to the core. She’s just one of the gang.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/38 "2003-10-13T20:35:54Z")

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I don’t know her name, but the wife from _Curb Your Enthusiasm_ is very bitchy. Poor Larry David gets into bizarre situations that are NEVER his fault, yet she always blames him and accepts to excuse. Also, his manager’s ex-wife is a big bitch, too.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/39 "2003-10-13T20:36:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tengu \*  
> \*\*Peggy Bundy \*\*

_Here_ is your winner.

Damn, I hate Peg Bundy.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-bitchiest-most-hateful-sitcom-mom-wife/207104/40 "2003-10-13T20:44:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MsWhatsit \*  
> \*\*Livia on _The Sopranos_.
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> No, I win! \*\*

Livia on _I, Claudius_

Game.  
Set.  
Match.

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