# Who is the Christian right going to vote for in 08? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 19, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050 "2007-11-19T17:10:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/21 "2007-11-20T17:10:44Z")
[QUOTE=Evil One] Huckabee will take off after he finishes second (or better) in Iowa. He will be a much bigger player than most people realize. I expect him to be a VP nominee at the very least. [/QUOTE] Agreed. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he winds up winning Iowa and the nomination. Which will be problematic for Democrats. Huckabee has a very high “likeability” quotient (unlike a certain frontrunning Democrat). That will make him a threat to take away swing voters (who often don’t look any deeper than likeability) in the general election. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/22 "2007-11-20T21:46:38Z")
On cue: [Huckabee gains ground with Iowa evangelicals](http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/20/huckabee.iowa/index.html): > [@](#): > > Two polls out last week show Huckabee gaining ground – second place in one and a statistical dead heat with front-runner Mitt Romney in another. > > It is support from evangelicals…that is driving Huckabee’s surge in Iowa, where Christian conservatives make up an estimated 40 percent of the GOP vote. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/23 "2007-11-21T05:07:01Z")
Simple. The Christian right will vote **for anyone but Hillary.** Or they won’t vote at all. Even to the most die-hard evangelicals _any_ Republican, even pro-choice pro-gay Gulliani, is by far the lesser evil than pro-nothing-except-her-own-power Hillary… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/24 "2007-11-21T15:49:42Z")
[QUOTE=Hail Ants] Simple. The Christian right will vote **for anyone but Hillary.** Or they won’t vote at all. Even to the most die-hard evangelicals _any_ Republican, even pro-choice pro-gay Gulliani, is by far the lesser evil than pro-nothing-except-her-own-power Hillary… [/QUOTE] My Og, are they really such fools as **that?!** The characterization “pro-nothing-except-her-own-power,” saving the pronoun’s gender, applies neither more nor less to HRC than to any other candidate in the race. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/25 "2007-11-21T16:31:54Z")
Hillary wouldn’t even say if she was pro or con ‘driver’s licenses for illegals’ in the state she’s supposedly representing. I think a few Republican candidates (and Dems) would… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/26 "2007-11-21T17:00:34Z")
[QUOTE=Hail Ants] Hillary wouldn’t even say if she was pro or con ‘driver’s licenses for illegals’ in the state she’s supposedly representing. I think a few Republican candidates (and Dems) would… [/QUOTE] Irrelevant. They **all** care for their own power – even principled ideologues like Paul and Kucinich – yet it is equally true that they **all** want to accomplish something. In HRC’s case, one of those things would appear to be breaking the Oval Office gender barrier forever. I hope the Christian Right has no objection on principle to **that!** ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/27 "2007-11-21T17:10:30Z")
I think the days of holding your nose and voting GOP are over. This last Congress and this President have completely abandoned the party’s base with out of control spending and little action on social issues. I think when the GOP had control of Congress there was the argument that you should hold your nose and vote GOP just because the DEM alternative was worse. But with us out of power, you won’t see much grassroots support for a party who is simply trying to gain its personal power back. Look for a strong third party candidate from the right… ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/28 "2007-11-21T18:56:02Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] In HRC’s case, one of those things would appear to be breaking the Oval Office gender barrier forever. I hope the Christian Right has no objection on principle to **that!** [/QUOTE] Hell no! Though I don’t think Phyllis Schlafly wants to run! 😃 I regret Elizabeth Dole has not stood out more in her role as Senator so that she could have become a viable candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/29 "2007-11-21T19:07:03Z")
[QUOTE=FriarTed] I regret Elizabeth Dole has not stood out more in her role as Senator so that she could have become a viable candidate. [/QUOTE] Wow, a Clinton vs. Dole race in '08 would be…really confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/30 "2007-11-21T20:43:50Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] In HRC’s case, one of those things would appear to be breaking the Oval Office gender barrier forever. I hope the Christian Right has no objection on principle to **that!** [/QUOTE] Is that a whoosh? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/31 "2007-11-21T23:43:15Z")
[QUOTE=Cat Fight] Is that a whoosh? [/QUOTE] They **do** sometimes support female candidates, don’t they? Is there anything in Christian-right doctrine that would apply a different rule to the presidency? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/32 "2007-11-22T00:48:55Z")
[QUOTE=unconventional] I firmly believe The Supreme Court, despite how conservative, will protect the first amendment and separation of Church and State. What exactly are they voting for? Trickle down economics? [/QUOTE] Well, that’s what they were voting for under Reagan & G.H.W. Bush. I guess if they didn’t believe in low taxes & great freedom for the rich, they’d be the Christian Left? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/33 "2007-11-22T00:51:06Z")
[QUOTE=Hail Ants] Simple. The Christian right will vote **for anyone but Hillary.** Or they won’t vote at all. Even to the most die-hard evangelicals _any_ Republican, even pro-choice pro-gay Gulliani, is by far the lesser evil than pro-nothing-except-her-own-power Hillary… [/QUOTE] ??? What are they preaching in your churches? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/34 "2007-11-22T05:50:40Z")
Living in the midwest/slash south, I’d have to agree with the sentiment that come November '08, most will vote for “anyone except Hillary.” This applies to the far right, but also, from many co-workers who are apolitical, I still hear sentiments along the lines of “It’s not a woman’s job being President.” It is easy to dismiss people like this as fools, but they live in every other house in every neighborhood in America, imo. Sir Rhosis ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050/35 "2007-11-22T05:54:07Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] They **do** sometimes support female candidates, don’t they? Is there anything in Christian-right doctrine that would apply a different rule to the presidency? [/QUOTE] ^^^See my post above. Many of the far far right people I know simply draw the line at the thought of voting for a woman for the highest office in the land. Lower level jobs they will give to them, but there is still that stigma out there that a woman should not be president. To deny that this is a sentiment held by many (even the apolitical ones who couldn’t tell you the name of the Vice President) is foolhardy. It may be 2007, but some ingrained prejudices are still rampant. Sir Rhosis [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-christian-right-going-to-vote-for-in-08/427050.md?page=1)