# Who is the greatest mathematician of all time?

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**Created:** [September 8, 2005, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646 "2005-09-08T13:45:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![bitwise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@bitwise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bitwise)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/21 "2005-09-10T07:43:48Z")

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A question: Why is Descartes considered so great? I can’t recall anything he did besides the famous coordinate system and the eponymous rule of signs. Perhaps, I am biased against him, because I was forced to read his “proof” of God’s existence.

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**Author:** ![bonzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/22 "2005-09-10T11:45:37Z")

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> [@Spiritus Mundi](#):
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> Are you sure? I never spent much time on the history of mathematics, but back in the Dark Ages when I groked on numbers the “mathemeticians on the street” pretty much spoke of Newton’s “method of fluxions” as retarding the progress of British mathematics for most of a century.

While this is certainly a deeply entrenched perception of 18th century British mathematics, to quote myself from [this recentish thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=321622) on Newton’s contributions to calculus:

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> The notion that Newton’s influence over his British successors put them at a disadvantage over their Continental colleagues in the years after his death is certainly something that’s often been repeated by writers on the history of mathematics. However, this has been questioned by specialists in recent years, notably by Niccolo Guicciardini in his _The Development of Newtonian Calculus in Britain, 1700-1800_ (Cambridge, 1989). The argument is that, rather than this being a period of stagnation as suggested in the conventional picture, a detailed look at it reveals lots of fruitful work being done. Guicciardini does accept that there was a crucial divergence between the British and French traditions, with the latter’s contributions going on to dominate 19th century developments, but dates this rather late in the 18th century and absolves Newton of the blame.

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**Author:** ![antechinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@antechinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antechinus)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/23 "2005-09-10T12:40:30Z")

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> [@Spiritus Mundi](#):
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> My contrarian vote goes to Cantor. But in my heart I know the answer is Gauss.

Napoleon ordered his troops to spare Gottingen in 1807 because “the greatest mathematician of all times is living there”.  
Jacob Bernoulli invented statistical sampling, which has had a huge impact on society. And his nephew Daniel who defined a systematic process of risk measurement has to be seen as very influential as well. These discoveries are fundamental to the modern way of thinking.

What about Fermat?

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**Author:** ![duffymo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@duffymo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffymo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/24 "2005-09-10T13:20:49Z")

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> [@tim314](#):
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> I’m not sure if this constitutes a Great Debate, or what. But anyway . . . who do you think is the greatest mathematician of all time? (And why, i.e. what did they do that’s so impressive?) What about the greatest of the 20th century?
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> I’ve seen this question asked a lot more for physics, with the answer generally being either Newton (co-invented calculus, major contributions with regard to mechanics, gravitation, optics, etc.) or Einstein (special and general relativity, explained photoelectric effect and brownian motion, etc.). In math, I don’t know of any such concensus.

When he presented his famous paper outlining the 23 great unsolved problems in 1900, David Hilbert was the master of the field. You can make a strong case for him at the start of the century.

Kurt Godel is another great 20th century mathematician. His theorem tells us a great deal about what’s possible and what’s not with mathematics.

And why just Einstein and Newton on that list of physicists? Maxwell’s equations, and all they’ve made possible since, might have been the greatest 19th century insight.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/25 "2005-09-10T13:59:33Z")

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> [@duffymo](#):
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> When he presented his famous paper outlining the 23 great unsolved problems in 1900, David Hilbert was the master of the field. You can make a strong case for him at the start of the century.
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> Kurt Godel is another great 20th century mathematician. His theorem tells us a great deal about what’s possible and what’s not with mathematics.
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> And why just Einstein and Newton on that list of physicists? Maxwell’s equations, and all they’ve made possible since, might have been the greatest 19th century insight.
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As an interesting side note here is a list of the problems that have been solved (or not) in that list.

[Hilbert’s problems](http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/h/hi/hilberts_problems1.htm)

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> Hilbert’s problems are a list of 23 problems in (A science (or group of related sciences) dealing with the logic of quantity and shape and arrangement) mathematics put forth by German mathematician (German mathematician (1862-1943)) David Hilbert in the (The capital and largest city of France; and international center of culture and commerce) Paris conference of the (Click link for more info and facts about International Congress of Mathematicians) International Congress of Mathematicians in 1900. The problems were all unsolved at the time, and several of them turned out to be very influential for twentieth-century mathematics. At this conference he presented 10 of the problems (1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 13, 16, 19, 21, and 22) and the list was published later

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/26 "2005-09-10T14:11:36Z")

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My Math prof used to joke that when our math texts said “one can show”, or “one can prove” it meant that someone had already proven it and that “one” usually ment Euler.

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**Author:** ![duffymo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@duffymo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffymo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/27 "2005-09-10T15:16:20Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> As an interesting side note here is a list of the problems that have been solved (or not) in that list.
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> [Hilbert’s problems](http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/h/hi/hilberts_problems1.htm)

Great link, thanks.

Benjamin Yandell wrote a great book entitled “The Honors Class” about the problems and their solutions:

[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1568812167/qid=1126365978/sr=2-1/ref=pd\_bbs\_b\_2\_1/102-6310953-2688115?v=glance&s=books](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1568812167/qid=1126365978/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-6310953-2688115?v=glance&s=books)

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/28 "2005-09-10T16:54:00Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> What about Euclid? Chopped liver?

Close! Euclid was a math teacher who compiled “Elements” from established problems into a textbook for his students. While he clearly defined the structure of math books up through the modern day, this does not make him a great mathematician.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/29 "2005-09-11T15:19:52Z")

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> [@bitwise](#):
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> A question: Why is Descartes considered so great? I can’t recall anything he did besides the famous coordinate system and the eponymous rule of signs. Perhaps, I am biased against him, because I was forced to read his “proof” of God’s existence.

Because every time a carriage got stuck in the mud, they would send for old Rene to pull them out.

It was a matter of putting Descartes before the horse…  
Thank you, thank you. Please don’t applaud, just throw money on the stage. 😃

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**Author:** ![migueljjr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@migueljjr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/migueljjr)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-greatest-mathematician-of-all-time/320646/30 "2014-06-07T20:07:25Z")

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Myself.

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migueljr,

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