# Who is the most evil villain in comics history?

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**Created:** [March 24, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988 "2005-03-24T01:50:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/21 "2005-03-24T05:04:18Z")

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While not on the scale of Thanatos or Darkseid, Hitler’s personal protege the Red Skull is pretty fuckin’ evil! And at least he **aspires** to be evil on the scale of Thanatos or Darkseid! 🙂

> **[Red Skull](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Skull)**
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> The Red Skull is an alias used by several fictional supervillains appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics and its predecessor Timely Comics, primarily Johann Shmidt. The first Red Skull appeared in Captain America Comics #1 (March 1941), created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Originally portrayed as a Nazi agent and protégé of Adolf Hitler during World War II, the Red Skull is regarded as the archenemy of the superhero Captain America. Initially wearing a fearsome blood-r The R...

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/22 "2005-03-24T06:33:45Z")

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If the entire universe is distroyed, everyone dies, so I would have to go with…

Fredric Wertham

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**Author:** ![Skellington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Skellington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skellington)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/23 "2005-03-24T07:46:43Z")

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Anyone who ever tried to do away with Tintin.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/24 "2005-03-24T07:52:43Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> **Kid Miracleman** , the grown-up one. Once discovered by Miracleman, his rampage through London(?) ranks high on the list of evil, uh, rampages.

I second **Kid Miracleman**. He defines Evil Villain. With a capital E-V. He allowed his abolute power corrupt him abso-friggin-lutely. This was once a good guy who followed the path of greed and power to such lengths that he destroyed the entire city of London. Pretty much, just coz.

Like Tripthicket said, “what was cutting-edge depiction of ‘realistic’ evil in the mid-80s is now much more likely to be the norm”. But I don’t think this takes away the power of Miracleman #15. It punches you in the stomach. Everything since is child’s play.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/25 "2005-03-24T08:04:26Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> The bad guy in Watchmen, whose name will go unmentioned so we don’t spoil. (Please don’t be the one to spoil this!)
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> –Cliffy

Technically speaking, he _did_ do it to save Earth from nuclear holocaust.

And…should we specifically _not_ count Manga villains in this? I mean, those guys can get pretty damn crazy, universe-destroying, true-love-crushing, tentacle-fu-ing _eeeevil._

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/26 "2005-03-24T09:32:01Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> Technically speaking, he _did_ do it to save Earth from nuclear holocaust.

Yeah, he isn’t evil. He’s just more capable than most of coolly weighing pros and cons against each other.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/27 "2005-03-24T12:11:07Z")

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Judge Death. He killed everyone on his own world, and has come to Dredd’s universe seeking to do the same. His ultimate goal : to kill every living creature in all worlds.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/28 "2005-03-24T12:26:03Z")

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> [@shy guy](#):
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> There’s also Thanos, who sort of encapsulates both. He murdered half the population of the universe to impress a girl and also reduced his grandaughter Nebula to a state where she experienced inconceivable torture.

Yeah, but Thanos has saved the universe as many times as he’s risked it. He was also the instrument used to prevent any more “getting better” amongst the marvel heroes. For that, he is the greatest hero of them all. 😛

**Menocchio** , you don’t think Carnage would torture and kill family members? He would. On the way there, he’d kill some people. Once he was done he’d kill some more. When the cops came, he’d kill them. He would torture and kill a kids parents right in front of them, then leave the kid alive and covered in blood for giggles. Carnage is so friggin nuts he’s left messages for heroes in his own blood.

I’m not going to try to say that Cletus Kasady is as creative as the Joker, but he is way crazier and way more evil.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/29 "2005-03-24T13:14:36Z")

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What? And no one’s mentioned the really, really BIG BAD GUY from Preacher?

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/30 "2005-03-24T14:20:30Z")

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**Ranchoth** , **Priceguy** , I consider that pretty frikkin’ evil. Evil people don’t think they’re evil – everyone thinks they’re doing good.

Good one, **Scott**.

Hmm, **Menocchio** makes a fine case for our boy Uxas of Apokolips. Indeed, I’m going to pretend to be convinced so I can make the following joke:

Who is the most evil villain in comics history?  
**Darkseid Is.**

–Cliffy

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/31 "2005-03-24T17:06:39Z")

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> [@Skellington](#):
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> Anyone who ever tried to do away with Tintin.

Everyone who didn’t try to do away with Tintin (he was an annoying brat, all said and done).  
Judge Death had a good line in evil. Criminality is bad, only living beings are criminals, therefore destroying all living beings will stop crime forever.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/32 "2005-03-24T17:19:43Z")

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Reggie Mantle…always trying to make time with Ronnie.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/33 "2005-03-24T17:22:15Z")

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I don’t suppose it could be Todd McFarlane or John Byrne?

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/34 "2005-03-24T17:23:24Z")

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All of you are wrong. By far, the most pure, unadultered evil in comics is Ambush Bug.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/35 "2005-03-24T17:34:48Z")

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Egghead ruins Henry Pyms life. (I’m not sure how)  
Kang manipulates Tony Stark and nearly turns him into a villian.  
Kingpin destroys Matt Murdocks life.

To me these villians are the ultimate defiition of evil.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/36 "2005-03-24T20:39:07Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> Egghead ruins Henry Pyms life. (I’m not sure how)

[HIJACK]Actually, Pym had done a good job of ruining his own life before Egghead stepped in to put the icing on his cake: Yellowjacket (as he was known at the time) had suffered the latest in a long series of nervous breakdowns due to his perceived failings as a scientist, husband-provider, and superhero. He had been expulsed from the Avengers due to conduct unbecoming a member, and the Wasp had kicked him out & divorced him after he slapped her around. Pym was homeless and penniless when Egghead framed him for the attempted heist of nuclear weaponry. Pym went to jail, was ridiculed by fellow inmates (some of whom he’d help put behind bars) and was daily delivered gossip magazines that detailed the Wasp’s rebound relationship with Tony Stark. (Pym eventually exonerated himself, of course!) For the full story: _Mighty Avengers_ #s 213 - 230.[/HIJACK]

IMHO, Loki is the most evil villain in comic book history. His crowning achievement (during Walt Simonsen’s run on “Thor”) was to frustrate the good-hearted, virtuous Baldar into commiting (what Baldar thought at least) cold-blooded murder. And for what? “An excellent jest!” Aside from siccing a horde of man-eating trolls on him, Loki injured Baldar in the most profound, soul-searing way imaginable…all for a mere chuckle! **That** is evil!!

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/37 "2005-03-24T20:45:56Z")

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I was going to vote for the **Anti-Monitor** (destroying every multiverse that ever was), but on second thought it should be **Thanos.**

Killing an entire universe to _impress your girlfriend?_ Boy, that be whack.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/38 "2005-03-24T21:13:25Z")

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I gotta go with Reggie. I mean, Archie just wants to get his groove on with Betty and Veronica–who wouldn’t?–and Reggie’s a total dickhead about it. I don’t have any Darkseids or Thanoses in my life, but I’ve known a Reggie or two, and hanging’s too good for 'em!

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-evil-villain-in-comics-history/295988/39 "2005-03-24T21:32:07Z")

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I think that the idea of including Reggie on this list is totally rediculous. Bah, Humbug!

WHooooooooooo

Oh my god, did you hear that? Oh no, it’s the skeletons in my closet! They are reminding me that that Reggie counts under any definition, not just by being a comic book character , but by being able to turn into the costumed villain Evilheart, scourge of Captain Pureheart (Archie) and Superteen (Betty) as well as…not much else, I guess.

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> [@](#):
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> Loki injured Baldar in the most profound, soul-searing way imaginable…all for a mere chuckle! That is evil!!

Yeah, but they drew Loki as totally Schizo. Sometimes he’s a joker, just going around doing hilarious things and causing mayhem, but without a real evil will behind it. Sometimes they go way the other way and turn him into the JOker. Personally, I like the former version.

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