# Who is the most powerful entity on ST:NG?

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**Created:** [February 7, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476 "2016-02-07T21:31:59Z")
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### Author: ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)
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I imagine it’s Q, but lets do a poll anyway.  
[Nagilum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Silence_Has_Lease)

[The Douwd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Silence_Has_Lease)

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#### Post date: [February 7, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/2 "2016-02-07T21:39:58Z")

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“We’re omnipotent.”

That pretty much sums it up for me.

Although that guy who wiped an entire interstellar civilization out of existence with a thought just because they killed his wife should be up there, too.

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### Author: ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)
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Second link is the same as the first. Here is the correct link.

The [douwd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Survivors_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)).

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Q actually brought Picard back to life (and then made him relive it as a wuss.) I don’t remember any other being pulling that off.

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Based on reading the episode summaries, I’d say the scriptwriters.

😉

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Second link is the same as the first. Here is the correct link.
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> The [douwd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Survivors_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)).

Thanks for that. 🙂

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#### Post date: [February 7, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/7 "2016-02-07T22:17:08Z")

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The Sisko

He punched out Q and got him to leave forever.

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### Author: ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2016, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/8 "2016-02-07T22:52:37Z")

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Guinan said the Q arnt as powerful as they would like you to think. The series bears that out.

As pointed out earlier Kevin Uxbridge destroyed all of that alien race everywhere. The Q had to use some kind of convulated anti-time plot maguffin to wipe out humanity.

Then there are the wormhole aliens.

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#### Post date: [February 7, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/9 "2016-02-07T23:03:33Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Guinan said the Q arnt as powerful as they would like you to think. The series bears that out.
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> As pointed out earlier Kevin Uxbridge destroyed all of that alien race everywhere. The Q had to use some kind of convulated anti-time plot maguffin to wipe out humanity.
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> Then there are the wormhole aliens.

When did she say that about the Q? I thought the Q had total control over our dimension.

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I got the picture that the Q could be omnipotent, but were restricted by the Q Continuum (so if Q wanted to do something sufficiently crazy, the Continuum would stop him).

I don’t think there’s any such restriction on the Douwd. If Q wanted to come after Kevin Uxbridge, I would bet on Kevin Uxbridge to successfully evade him. If Q killed Kevin Uxbridge’s wife, I would bet on Uxbridge killing him (or getting close and then the Continuum saving Q).

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#### Post date: [February 7, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/11 "2016-02-07T23:10:41Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> When did she say that about the Q? I thought the Q had total control over our dimension.

Research shows that it was probably Quinn (The excellent Voyager -IMO- ep “Death Wish”) who said that

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### Author: ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)
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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> As pointed out earlier Kevin Uxbridge destroyed all of that alien race everywhere. The Q had to use some kind of convulated anti-time plot maguffin to wipe out humanity.

I don’t think he did that at all. My understanding was that Picard created the time anomaly. Q then stepped in to help Picard solve the problem.

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#### Post date: [February 7, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/13 "2016-02-07T23:54:09Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I don’t think he did that at all. My understanding was that Picard created the time anomaly. Q then stepped in to help Picard solve the problem.

The Q manipulated Picard into doing that…Q did step in and help cause he likes Picard…  
It’s very complicated ok!!!

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Didn’t Q tell Gordie to alter the gravitational constant of the universe like it was no big deal? That’s some serious shit.

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#### Post date: [February 8, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/15 "2016-02-08T05:27:46Z")

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Q can’t even eat one hot fudge sundae

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#### Post date: [February 8, 2016, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/16 "2016-02-08T05:59:39Z")

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The Nagilum was apparently limited to a hole in space. And the doud, while he could kill entire species, seemed to lack the ability to just move his planet somewhere else, or hide it from sensors, or make the crew forget about it–stuff a Q has been shown the capability of doing.

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#### Post date: [February 8, 2016, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/17 "2016-02-08T06:47:03Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Guinan said the Q arnt as powerful as they would like you to think. The series bears that out.

You shouldn’t listen to her. She’s an imp.

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### Author: ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2016, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/18 "2016-02-08T07:50:04Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> When did she say that about the Q? I thought the Q had total control over our dimension.

Oh, just our dimension? How limiting.

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#### Post date: [February 8, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/19 "2016-02-08T14:31:39Z")

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Kevin the Douwd specifically said that he did not have the power to raise the dead back to life – that’s why he was so heartbroken and enraged by the death of his wife. On the other hand, we know that Q can - as well as create new beings at the snap of his fingers, and casually alter the physical properties of the universe. It’s really no contest.

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#### Post date: [February 8, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-powerful-entity-on-st-ng/745476/20 "2016-02-08T14:39:11Z")

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I really messed this poll up. I think the better question to ask is: "Who do you think is the SECOND most powerful entity on ST:NG?

Oh well… :o

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