# Who is the USA's Best Ally?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 11, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492 "2012-02-11T02:39:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![voidray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cc9497/32.png) [@voidray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voidray)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/1 "2012-02-11T02:39:52Z")

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In my humble opinion, it is Israel especially while considered the Jewish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/2 "2012-02-11T02:53:46Z")

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Well, _this_ will go over well.

And Israel is a rotten ally. For that matter, _America_ is a rotten ally.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/3 "2012-02-11T02:59:32Z")

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Taking the title of the thread at face value and ignoring the rest of the OP, I would say Canada. Consider that we share a 3,000 mile border and yet get along well enough that our northern border is effectively undefended.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/4 "2012-02-11T03:01:21Z")

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> [@voidray](#):
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> In my humble opinion, it is Israel especially while considered the Jewish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.

Guten tag, Herr **Voidray** …

As a serious answer:  
Canada  
Colombia  
Chile  
Korea  
UK  
Israel  
Poland  
Georgia  
Australia  
And while not a country, the Kurds deserve an honourable mention

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/5 "2012-02-11T03:14:45Z")

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The US is dragged down by Israel to ridiculous levels.

Best? Metric Americans.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/6 "2012-02-11T03:14:53Z")

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If Georgia was that well-disposed toward the U.S., don’t you think they’d have kept Newt Gingrich locked up somewhere safe?

😛

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/7 "2012-02-11T03:27:12Z")

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> [@voidray](#):
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> They have general control over the media and the government.

Then why are they spying on us?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/8 "2012-02-11T03:32:28Z")

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> [@voidray](#):
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> They have general control over the media and the government.

Also the fillings in my teeth!

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**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/9 "2012-02-11T03:59:41Z")

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Well the OP poisoned the well from the start, so I doubt a reasonable discussion will come of this.

At any rate, the answer is Canada, as they are our greatest trading partner and they are a military ally. [Trade stats](http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/current/balance.html)

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/10 "2012-02-11T04:09:56Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Also the fillings in my teeth!

And I don’t even have fillings in my teeth. Does Zionist perfidy know no bounds?!?

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/11 "2012-02-11T04:38:18Z")

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I’d say Britain, a passing global hegemony and a new one simpatico is a rare sight.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/12 "2012-02-11T04:47:12Z")

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A toss-up between the Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/13 "2012-02-11T04:48:07Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Guten tag, Herr **Voidray** …
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> As a serious answer:  
> Canada  
> Colombia  
> Chile  
> Korea  
> UK  
> Israel  
> Poland  
> Georgia  
> Australia  
> And while not a country, the Kurds deserve an honourable mention

Surely Japan deserves a mention as well?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/14 "2012-02-11T04:51:14Z")

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Canada or UK.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/15 "2012-02-11T05:02:12Z")

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ZOG is doing such a good job being an ally to Israel that they’ve forgotten that the US and Israel are not in fact allies. Jews are all sneaky like that.

In all seriousness though, the use of the word ally with regards to Israel always irks me. We are not allies, there is no alliance between the US and Israel. When Israel has been attacked and if it is attacked in the future, the US will not militarily go to Israel’s aid. Israel will not militarily come to America’s aid should the US be attacked. After the 9/11 attacks NATO came to America’s aid. Israel did not. Why? The US and NATO nations are allies. Any attack upon one member within the North Atlantic area is considered an attack upon all members; the nations within NATO have all pledged mutual defense. The US and Israel are friends, not allies.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/16 "2012-02-11T05:10:49Z")

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Canada and Mexico

Mexico sends us great workers and drugs. Canada sends us great prescription drugs and gives free medical care to American emigre retirees.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/17 "2012-02-11T05:19:27Z")

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[Albania](http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/09/world/europe/09albania.html)

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/18 "2012-02-11T05:30:30Z")

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Canada and the US have no need/opportunity to cooperate, a requirement of an ally. At best Canada is that blind old lady that lives upstairs, she’s been there 10 years but I wouldn’t say that makes her my best friend.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/19 "2012-02-11T05:40:30Z")

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That’s it, we’re poisoning your tea next time you come upstairs. If we can find the poison. Or the tea.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/20 "2012-02-11T05:41:27Z")

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> [@voidray](#):
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> In my humble opinion, it is Israel especially while considered the Jewish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.

I didn’t realize Barack Obama was Jewish?

That said, I’ve always wondered when some anti-Semites would finally figure out that Barack is a Hebrew name.

Obviously, I’m not calling you an anti-Semite since that could be considered an insult.

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