# Who is the USA's Best Ally? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 11, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492 "2012-02-11T02:39:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/21 "2012-02-11T05:44:04Z")
Canada – you mean America Jr? 😉 (Kidding! I’m just kidding!) ---
**Author:** ![voidray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cc9497/32.png) [@voidray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voidray)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/22 "2012-02-11T06:00:48Z")
I am not anti-Semite or stuff like that. I love Jewish people, one of whom used to be my GF. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/23 "2012-02-11T06:20:40Z")
> [@voidray](#): > > I am not anti-Semite or stuff like that. I love Jewish people, one of whom used to be my GF. Er… nobody has accused you of being one. Moreover, fucking a Jewish girl does not preclude one from having issues with Jews. ---
**Author:** ![voidray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cc9497/32.png) [@voidray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voidray)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/24 "2012-02-11T06:23:44Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Moreover, fucking a Jewish girl does not preclude one from having issues with Jews. Oh, well ok. Let’s leave it at that. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/25 "2012-02-11T06:24:12Z")
> [@voidray](#): > > I am not anti-Semite Well, then, you should be aware that “the Jewish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.” is an anti-Semitic statement. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/26 "2012-02-11T06:30:17Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Well, then, you should be aware that “the Jewish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.” is an anti-Semitic statement. Or just an uninformed one. “the Polish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.” Wrong, but whats racist about that? ---
**Author:** ![voidray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cc9497/32.png) [@voidray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voidray)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/27 "2012-02-11T06:32:18Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Well, then, you should be aware that “the Jewish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.” is an anti-Semitic statement. How come? ---
**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/28 "2012-02-11T06:46:41Z")
> [@voidray](#): > > I am not anti-Semite or stuff like that. I love Jewish people, one of whom used to be my GF. Maybe it is an unresolved personal issue with your “used to be” girlfriend that makes you claim that the Jewish population in the U.S. have control over the media and government. U.K. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/29 "2012-02-11T06:55:14Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Wrong, but whats racist about that? It depends, is it an accusation that one ethnic group has somehow gained control over the nation and is using that control to harm other ethnic groups? Furthermore, is the claim untrue? And to put the icing on, is the claim virtually identical to centuries of slanders directed at that ethnic group? If so, then it’s racist. Note I say that the _statement_ is a racist statement, not that the person making it is necessarily a racist person. A person can be uninformed, a statement cannot be. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/30 "2012-02-11T06:56:52Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Or just an uninformed one. > > “the Polish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.” > > Wrong, but whats racist about that? You think that claiming that black people are stupid or that white people have small penises isn’t racist? Admittedly the last statement is largely true, but they’re both still quite racist. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Universe_Lashes_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/31 "2012-02-11T07:23:48Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Moreover, fucking a Jewish girl does not preclude one from having issues with Jews. In fact, it has a tendency to incite said issues. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/32 "2012-02-11T07:24:49Z")
I’d say Canada economically. The U.K and Canada strategically, in that order because the U.K. has nukes. ---
**Author:** ![voidray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cc9497/32.png) [@voidray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voidray)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/33 "2012-02-11T07:27:28Z")
Well if you have control over something, it basically means you are clever enough to do so. What’s racist with that, seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/34 "2012-02-11T07:37:35Z")
> [@voidray](#): > > Well if you have control over something, it basically means you are clever enough to do so. What’s racist with that, seriously? Who has said anything about “racism”? We’re talking about anti-Semitism. ---
**Author:** ![voidray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cc9497/32.png) [@voidray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voidray)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/35 "2012-02-11T07:48:20Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Who has said anything about “racism”? We’re talking about anti-Semitism. Ups, OK. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/36 "2012-02-11T08:06:08Z")
> [@voidray](#): > > Well if you have control over something, it basically means you are clever enough to do so. “[Group X] has come to dominate our government and media, and use them against our own interests to further theirs. My, how I respect them and their cleverly nefarious domination of my homeland.” For serious? And if you’re honestly unaware of the pedigree of your accusations, I’d advise you to google “the protocols of the elders of Zion” and “Zionist Occupied Government” as a start. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/37 "2012-02-11T08:19:56Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > That’s it, we’re poisoning your tea next time you come upstairs. If we can find the poison. Or the tea. Just serve them [Red Rose](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAtDXOnmqiM) instead. That should do the trick 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/38 "2012-02-11T09:40:43Z")
> [@detop](#): > > Just serve them [Red Rose](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAtDXOnmqiM) instead. That should do the trick 😃 WTF is with that commercial? Is it _supposed_ to have those weird cuts, or is that just an error with the video tape? Is it intended to parody a 70s political thriller? I keep expecting Edward Fox to step in and shoot somebody in the head. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/39 "2012-02-11T10:10:35Z")
Surely the USA’s best ally must be the friend who gives far more than they take, the buddy they are most deeply in debt to, the guys without who the US would go broke - China. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492/40 "2012-02-11T10:47:23Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Or just an uninformed one. > > “the Polish population in the US. They have general control over the media and the government.” > > Wrong, but whats racist about that? It’s actually true, but few people are aware that the kielbasas sold in America are really relays for a massive mind control device built under the cathedral in Łódź. But I know, oh yes. What, you thought those “dumb Polack” jokes sprung out of thin air ? False sense of security, my friend. It’s all part of the plan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-usas-best-ally/612492.md?page=3)