# Who is the whistleblower? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 11, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638 "2019-10-11T16:43:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/1 "2019-10-11T16:43:16Z")
I’m amused by the charade that nobody in Congress or the White House knows who the whistleblower is, or at least has a pretty good idea. Come on, kiddies, the pool of suspects is small, and the addition of a second whistleblower, closer to the action, shrinks the pool even more. So, whodunit? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/2 "2019-10-11T16:45:50Z")
Some career intelligence or foreign service official we’ve never heard of before. Or whoever wrote the Lodestar letter But probably the first. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/3 "2019-10-11T16:54:18Z")
I am the whistleblower. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/4 "2019-10-11T16:57:39Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I’m amused by the charade that nobody in Congress or the White House knows who the whistleblower is, or at least has a pretty good idea. Come on, kiddies, the pool of suspects is small, and the addition of a second whistleblower, closer to the action, shrinks the pool even more. > > So, whodunit? Which whistleblower? There’s 3 that I know of now (counting the IRS). ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/5 "2019-10-11T16:59:13Z")
Someone Trump and his cronies don’t know? If the second whistleblower has first hand knowledge of the call that group would be tiny and Trump would have turned them in for the $50k bounty. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/6 "2019-10-11T17:34:54Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I am the whistleblower. I am [del]Spartacus[/del] the whistleblower. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/7 "2019-10-11T17:36:28Z")
I still think it’s Kato Kaelin. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/8 "2019-10-11T17:38:03Z")
Nobody’s calling for them to be imprisoned for life so I figure gotta be CIA. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/9 "2019-10-11T17:48:46Z")
I thought I heard the WB was a CIA person who in the course of their duties got complaints from several sources, via legitimate channels over real concerns. ---
**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhodes/32/273_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhodes)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/10 "2019-10-11T18:47:50Z")
[I’m](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21898195#post21898195) guessing [Bill Taylor](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/10/politics/ukraine-text-messages-annotated/). He’s on the text messages with Volker and Sondland and Giuliani, implying that he’s uneasy about the apparent quid pro quo (without using those words). They reply that they should be speaking by phone instead of text, and also add a carefully worded message that there’s no quid pro quo. CNN’s comment is that his concerns are exactly those of the whistleblower. > [@](#): > > [9/1/19, 12:08:57 PM] Bill Taylor: Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations? > > [9/1/19, 12:42:29 PM] Gordon Sondland: Call me > [@](#): > > [9/9/19, 12:47:11 AM] Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. > > [9/9/19, 5:19:35 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/11 "2019-10-11T19:29:09Z")
Melania ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/12 "2019-10-11T20:09:25Z")
But who did she plagiarize the letter from? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/13 "2019-10-12T00:11:01Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I am the whistleblower. NO WAY, DUDE. The first whistleblower was Harpo Marx, and I an the second whistleblower. I AM FIRST HAND ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/14 "2019-10-12T00:53:45Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I am [del]Spartacus[/del] the whistleblower. I’m not, but I am going to dress as a whistle for Halloween. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/15 "2019-10-12T01:20:42Z")
The whistle should be part of the wardrobe for anybody protesting trump. Just blow that sucker anywhere and everywhere he appears. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/16 "2019-10-12T02:23:25Z")
> [@Rhodes](#): > > [I’m](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21898195#post21898195) guessing [Bill Taylor](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/10/politics/ukraine-text-messages-annotated/). He’s on the text messages with Volker and Sondland and Giuliani, implying that he’s uneasy about the apparent quid pro quo (without using those words). They reply that they should be speaking by phone instead of text, and also add a carefully worded message that there’s no quid pro quo. CNN’s comment is that his concerns are exactly those of the whistleblower. Do we know who S is? I’ve been too busy lately and have fallen very behind on this story. Is it Stephen Miller? Or Steven. Don’t know which is correct. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/17 "2019-10-12T02:44:32Z")
I’m thinking Coates. (I also think he was the author of the NYT piece.) ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/18 "2019-10-12T05:30:13Z")
He is apparently a career CIA employee who was assigned to the White House (according to the NY Times). More importantly, several people at the White House came to him with their concerns and he was the one to file the formal complaint. He’s not an individual, but the representative of a number of concerned public servants. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/19 "2019-10-12T05:44:10Z")
Missed the edit: [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html?module=inline](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html?module=inline) > [@](#): > > ``` > WASHINGTON — The White House learned that a C.I.A. officer had lodged allegations against President Trump’s dealings with Ukraine even as the officer’s whistle-blower complaint was moving through a process meant to protect him against reprisals, people familiar with the matter said on Thursday. > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638/20 "2019-10-12T11:53:53Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I’m not, but I am going to dress as a whistle for Halloween. Maybe work DeepThoat (watergate) into your costume. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-whistleblower/841638.md?page=2)