# Who is this beautiful angry boi I found at camp? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 8, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768 "2023-05-08T20:36:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/1 "2023-05-08T20:36:50Z")
In the middle of the road! I had to nudge him out of the way with a stick so he would not get run over. Tried to bite me TWICE. Upstate NY. [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/okhuxOJ.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/qoPF1bH) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/2 "2023-05-08T20:40:25Z")
Long shot, but I wonder if @Crotalus still checks the SDMB. He is a snake expert. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/3 "2023-05-08T20:42:24Z")
Last posted two and a half years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Orville\_mogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/aeb1de/32.png) [@Orville\_mogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orville_mogul)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/4 "2023-05-08T20:44:18Z")
I am also from Upstate NY. Don’t know what it is, but if you tell me where it is, I will stay the f\*\*k away! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/5 "2023-05-08T20:50:01Z")
Looks like maybe an Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake from what I can find on the intertoobs. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/6 "2023-05-08T20:50:11Z")
Looks like a northern water snake. Explains why it’s angry! ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/7 "2023-05-08T20:50:17Z")
Well, i am not an expert, but i’d say it’s some sort of snake. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/8 "2023-05-08T20:52:25Z")
Definitely not anything venomous. Except for the brightly-colored coral snake (which is the wrong part of the continent anyway), all of the venomous snakes in North America are pit vipers, and have a head wider than their body. Beyond that, I couldn’t tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/9 "2023-05-08T20:56:50Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Looks like a northern water snake. Compare: [![](https://greennature.com/wp-content/uploads/reptiles/northern-watersnake.jpg) ](https://greennature.com/wp-content/uploads/reptiles/northern-watersnake.jpg) ~Max ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/10 "2023-05-08T20:58:21Z")
I’d guess a rat snake, eats rodents. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/11 "2023-05-08T20:58:23Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Looks like a northern water snake. I think we have the winner here 🙂 . I concur and here’s a link for [upstate NY](https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2016/06/meet_new_yorks_17_slithery_snakes_--_three_are_poisonous_to_humans.html). ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/12 "2023-05-08T21:08:23Z")
Look at the pointy tail- clearly not a rattlesnake. ---
**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/13 "2023-05-08T21:23:00Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Looks like a northern water snake. Explains why it’s angry! Agree 100% with the ID of _Nerodia sipedon sipedon_, especially with regard to the anger! When I was a kid, I rescued one from getting ground up in the recirculating pump in our backyard pond, and my reward was a solid bite on my right hand that bled freely for quite some time (their saliva has some mild anticoagulant properties). ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/14 "2023-05-08T22:41:58Z")
Yes he sure was cranky! So pretty though. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/15 "2023-05-08T22:52:00Z")
Here is a much friendlier little guy from my yard. He stared at me and I stared at him for a good 30 seconds before he was like HUMAN! RUN! [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/jFYw8dP.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/IKM215z) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/16 "2023-05-09T00:41:40Z")
Come back, snakie! Let me love you! ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/17 "2023-05-09T00:47:52Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Looks like a northern water snake. Explains why it’s angry! Yes, I’m pretty certain it is. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/18 "2023-05-09T01:24:55Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > I think we have the winner here 🙂 . I concur and here’s a link for [upstate NY](https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2016/06/meet_new_yorks_17_slithery_snakes_--_three_are_poisonous_to_humans.html). Wow, three poisonous snakes in NY? We only have one in New Hampshire. It’s easy for me to like wild snakes knowing that if it’s not a timber rattler, it’s not dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/19 "2023-05-09T01:54:37Z")
Rattlesnakes are only dangerous to idiots, anyway. They’ll warn you before attacking, and only an idiot would ignore that warning. They know you’re not good hunting, and venom is expensive: They really, sincerely mean it when they tell you that they don’t want to attack you. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768/20 "2023-05-09T07:05:05Z")
In my experience. Never ever poke a mad snake with a stick. Just walk away. (Or run) YMMV [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-beautiful-angry-boi-i-found-at-camp/983768.md?page=2)