# Who is this Fox News idiot?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 4, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494 "2004-02-04T15:30:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/1 "2004-02-04T15:30:32Z")

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[http://blugg.com/stuff/foxs\_view\_of\_the\_bbc\_player.htm](http://blugg.com/stuff/foxs_view_of_the_bbc_player.htm)  
(Quicktime file, needs sound)

I vaguely remember this gobshite on the Geraldo show during the OJ trial but haven’t seen him since.

His “analysis” of the BBC and Hutton inquiry is unbelievably stupid, ignorant, incomplete and just idiotic IMO.

Does this git have any cred in the US coz the linked example of his work is not something I’d put on my CV.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/2 "2004-02-04T15:46:20Z")

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He’s very opinionated during the opinion part of his show called “My Word”. That was an editorial.

I watched BBC World yesterday report that Sharon has “never moved a settlement” and the silent implication was that he is the only actor in the area. Nobody mentioned the Palestinian bombers, or political opposition Sharon faces at home due to it.

How can the BBC spend 20 minutes on OUR presidential election? Is that the “World” part?

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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/3 "2004-02-04T15:47:45Z")

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Maybe I’m an idiot (responses not required, I’m not inviting opinions on the subject) but wasn’t Gilligans program about Blairs justification for invading Iraq and the fact the British government “sexed up” the facts to justify UK support for invading Iraq?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/4 "2004-02-04T15:49:12Z")

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This is some guy’s chance at an op-ed, but is there a likelihood that any viewers would actually _believe_ the utter utter bullshit he’s spouting?

It’s not just his opinions, it’s downright fucking lies!

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/5 "2004-02-04T15:55:50Z")

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> [@Beagle](#):
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> He’s very opinionated during the opinion part of his show called “My Word”. That was an editorial.

I know but it was a stupid editorial.

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> I watched BBC World yesterday report that Sharon has “never moved a settlement” and the silent implication was that he is the only actor in the area. Nobody mentioned the Palestinian bombers, or political opposition Sharon faces at home due to it.

If only the guy that the OP were making silent implications.

Listen, you have problems with the BBC. Good on you but this editorial piece of shit is just wrong in almost every respect. It’s just outright in your face lies.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/6 "2004-02-04T15:55:55Z")

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Hey **Beagle** , why not address the OP and the issues raised by the Fox report, rather than criticise the BBC on its Mid-East coverage?

I will, however, address one part of your attempted hijack:

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> How can the BBC spend 20 minutes on OUR presidential election? Is that the “World” part?

The US election would be covered only on BBC World, but also on all the domestic channels in the UK and Ireland, on our nightly bulletins. You’re quite an important country, see, especially in terms of foreign policy.

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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/7 "2004-02-04T15:56:23Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> This is some guy’s chance at an op-ed, but is there a likelihood that any viewers would actually _believe_ the utter utter bullshit he’s spouting?

Probably, Fox is the highest rated news channel in the US AFAIK

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/8 "2004-02-04T15:57:30Z")

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“…South Carolina, still suffering the divisions left over after the Civil War…”

Um, guys, hire some people from other countries.

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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/9 "2004-02-04T16:00:18Z")

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> [@Beagle](#):
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> “…South Carolina, still suffering the divisions left over after the Civil War…”
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> Um, guys, hire some people from other countries.

So, the whole issue with the confederate flag flying over the government building a few years back never happened?

I’m no great fan of the BBC but holy shit, they are a paragon of virtue and honesty compared to Fox if that example is typical of Fox broadcasting.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/10 "2004-02-04T16:03:38Z")

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> Hey Beagle, why not address the OP and the issues raised by the Fox report, rather than criticise the BBC on its Mid-East coverage?

I figure that the BBC, Blair, Bush, and all the other alphabet agencies have some ‘splainin’ to do.

Me, I just know BBC propaganda when I hear it.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/11 "2004-02-04T16:03:18Z")

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**Beagle** , in the light of the report cited in the OP you have made my irony meter explode with your (irrelevant) criticisms.

I’m guessing that you agree with the guy’s opinions. If so, care to defend them?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/12 "2004-02-04T16:12:46Z")

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Well gosh darn it, I think we’ve found someone who actually swallowed this guy’s spiel.

Or is too ignorant actually to know why the guy’s facts were wrong.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/13 "2004-02-04T16:15:51Z")

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> I figure that the BBC, Blair, Bush, and all the other alphabet agencies have some ‘splainin’ to do.

You won’t find many people disagreeing with this. I’m not saying the BBC are blameless. I’m saying the guy in the link is either clueless about the affair or lying.

**Beagle** why don’t you just fuck off and start a BBC Pit thread.

This thread is about the idiot in the link and what he said.

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> A frothing at the mouth anti-Americanism that was obsessive, irrational and dishonest. The BBC, the beeb was one of the worst offenders in the British press because it felt entitled to not only pillory America, Americans and Bush but felt entitled to lie and when caught lying felt entitled to support it’s lying reporter and executives.

What a lot of wank. He’s pulling his little Murdoc enhanced BBC hating dick off screen.

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> After the war back in London Gilligan got a guy called David Kelly to tell him about pre-war assessment of Iraq’s weapons programmes and Gilligan exaggerated, LIED, about what Kelly had told him. Kelly committed suicide over the story and the BBC far from blaming itself insisted that it had a right to lie and exaggerate because the knew the war was wrong and anything it had to say to underscore that point had to be right.

Very interesting I must have missed the BBC statement that said " it had a right to lie and exaggerate because the knew the war was wrong"

You may have a point about the BBC but why don’t you make it somewhere else. So how about addressing the OP or fucking off?

You could even just give me the cunt’s name.

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**Author:** ![Pergau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7c8e57/32.png) [@Pergau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pergau)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/14 "2004-02-04T16:18:32Z")

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I’m begining to worry about this. The election of the leader of the largest “democratic” country in the world is under way and people wonder why we might be interested in it. I know it’s only the primaries but this is the shaping of the opposition to the incumbent and is showing us what the people of America are being told are the issues to worry about.

Of course we’re interested - half of the world would substuite “aggressor” for “democratic” and the other half would substuite “benefactor” we’re all stakeholders here.

What amazes me is the total insulation of the Americans. Compare that to the English who think that the rest of the world is automatically interested in whatever goes on there.

Sorry if i’m ranting but I’m still annoyed at that idiot and his vile utterances.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/15 "2004-02-04T16:25:07Z")

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Any chance of actually answering the OP, Beagle? or shall we be treated to more assinine sidestepping?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/16 "2004-02-04T16:25:40Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> You could even just give me the cunt’s name.

He did (title of first post - I missed it too):

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> John Gibson

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/17 "2004-02-04T16:27:23Z")

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Doh! again 😃

I’m on a roll.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/18 "2004-02-04T16:31:45Z")

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> [@Pergau](#):
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> Compare that to the English who think that the rest of the world is automatically interested in whatever goes on there.

Didn’t you get the memo?

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**Author:** ![Galanthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Galanthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galanthus)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/19 "2004-02-04T16:32:52Z")

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Wow, there’s some interesting irony here. Out right bare faced lies used by one media outlet condeming another media outlet for lying.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2004, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-this-fox-news-idiot/227494/20 "2004-02-04T16:38:02Z")

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Galanthus, It’s a whole different arguement as to wether the BBC lied or not. 🙂

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